Posted on 06/30/2008 6:24:32 PM PDT by Grig
Let us not forget that he drank alcohol the night before he was killed in the shoot out too.
According to President John Taylor, who was with Joseph the night he was killed in a blotched jail break, Joseph also smoked his pipe as well as enjoying a bottle of wine.
Just lurking today after partying last night in a Mexican joint down in Kanab. Brigham must have ordained the ground on which it stands; across the street from the Stewart memorial where the first fort was built. Plaques dedicated to Jacob Hamblin prominently displayed along with the list of the faithful. I believe they must have partaken of the good fruits of the vine in that spot. Five miles south is Fredonia, AZ where the Buckskin Bar is rumored to have been the refuge of all the movie makers and stars during that period. After 1890 there were plenty of extra women in Fredonia as that’s where they were hiding.
Ahhhh....Tequila, God’s gift to ex-mos.
Come on down to Fredonia, there's room at the bar!
Word of Wisdom - never partake of drink with a dead invertebrate residing in the same bottle.
You called that one....
What is a protected secret?
"I have spoken openly to the world," Jesus replied. "I always taught in synagogues or at the temple, where all the Jews come together. I said nothing in secret."
John 18:20"Rather, we have renounced secret and shameful ways; we do not use deception, nor do we distort the word of God. On the contrary, by setting forth the truth plainly we commend ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God."
2 Corinthians 4:2"Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. For it is shameful even to mention what the disobedient do in secret. But everything exposed by the light becomes visible,"
Ephesians 5:11-13
Cordially,
Temples are closed to the public and also to Mormons who do not qualify as sufficiently "worthy." The rituals in the temples - especially the "endowment" - are considered so sacred that Mormons are forbidden to discuss them outside the temple itself.
Even non-Mormons sometimes object to articles such as the one you are now reading, since such articles reveal Mormons' religious secrets to a curious - and perhaps unworthy and even mocking - world.
Many people, not only devout Mormons, feel that it is wrong to do this. Usually two reasons for the objection are given: 1) things that anyone holds sacred should not be profaned, mocked or ridiculed by anyone else, even by one who does not consider them sacred; and 2) the person who is revealing the secrets usually is someone who obtained the secrets only by swearing an oath of secrecy, and thus is breaking an oath.
As to the first objection, this article does not "mock" or "ridicule" the secrets of the Mormon temple; it merely reveals them. Also, it seems rather odd to refuse to discuss objectively and openly any subject just because someone else feels that subject is taboo. I doubt that many Mormons would refuse to discuss the sacred initiation rituals of some primitive African tribe or some Satanist cult on the grounds that the tribe or cult considered those rites sacred.
As to the second objection, the validity and binding nature of an oath or any promise depends, both legally and morally, upon the validity of the mutually accepted facts underlying the demanding and the giving of the oath. The oath of secrecy given by a Mormon in the temple is based on the assurance and sacred promise by the church that the oath is required by God, and that the secrets one will receive are given by God. If those assurances are in fact false, then one cannot be bound either legally or morally by any such oath, since it was obtained by a lie.
YOU is a PROPHET!!!
Hail to da MAN!!!!
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I like how the Book of MORMON came into existance:
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