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To: FatherofFive
Maybe not the gates of hell, but good Norman steel certainly prevailed against the Catholic Church when Pope Leo IX was taken captive after loosing the battle of Civitate. ;)
159 posted on 07/02/2008 8:16:48 PM PDT by allmendream (Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.)
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To: allmendream
good Norman steel certainly prevailed against the Catholic Church

The Normans, after all, were Catholics themselves (as were everyone in Western Europe, excepting some remaining pagans in Scandinavia), The battle to which you refer was part of a 3 way contest for control of southern Italy between the locals, supported by the Pope, the Byzantine Empire (this was the occasion of the Great Schism with Orthodoxy), and conquering Normans, still half-barbarians.

186 posted on 07/03/2008 12:42:52 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Obama "King of Kings and Lord of Lords")
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