Posted on 06/27/2008 12:30:58 PM PDT by Terriergal
What are you talking about? Todd Bentley is real authentic and so is any magazine that reports on him.
How can you question a man who rode inside a pillar of fire to heaven, where he had surgery performed by angels?
C’mon!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMEKB2UUmac
Do you know for a fact that God isn't behind this revival? We pray for revival daily, and when it breaks out, people want to stand in the way of His movement.
I don't know that much about this revival, but I know this statement took me back. The Apostle Paul boasted in his infirmities, not in his "superior" ministry.
Yes.
When “leaders” of the “revival” tell someone not to pray as Arnott and Howard-Browne have done, that should throw up red flags for everyone involved. Sorry, God may move in individual lives but the revival as a whole is counterfeit.
Sorry, but God isn’t the author of confusion. This is no different than the Toronto and Brownsville (Pensacola) movements where people acted like animals in the name of God. Pathetic.
Watch any or all of these videos and answer your own question.
Part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMEKB2UUmac&feature=related
Part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fliqcEqYUX0&feature=related
Part 3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFQc1oCgajU&feature=related
Part 4:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_cTuIb5oNs&feature=related
Part 5:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUJAaThoH7w&feature=related
Part 6:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYiOL9_2Dz0&feature=related
Part 7:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PCd_FpN3Rw&feature=related
Part 8 (a look at pagan practice that looks like Lakeland):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUj70gUxFog&feature=user
Part 9:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrrIaHY7MCY&feature=related
Bonus material:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zN5UXNmcdWA&feature=related
http://www.christianresearchservice.com/ToddBentleyVideoResearchPage.htm
http://www.christianresearchservice.com/ToddBentleyResearchPage.htm
http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/bentleyresponse.html
http://www.christianresearchservice.com/ToddBentley4.htm
No doubt, more to come! Bentley is productive.
“... while Peter Wagner, leader of the International Coalition of Apostles....”
I see Wagner has dreamed up another self-exalting name for himself and his cronies. I’m just surprised he didn’t add “and Prophets” to the name of his coalition. What deluded frauds (or con men).
Ishmael always comes before Isaac....wait for Isaac.
History records others who have spoken to angels and have mystical experiences, who felt that that their new revealed truths were going to take the world by storm....one such man was Mohammed, hence 22 per cent of the world lies under
Islam’s grip. Bentley uses similar language.
Christ is going to bodily rule the Earth and set up his kingdom in the new Jerusalem...”Hence you will see the Son of Man coming in the clouds in great glory...”
Paul’s truth’s were revealed to him(other than the Damascus) generally through the Holy Spirit, though he did mention a man being caught up to “third heaven” once where he heard words that were”not lawful for men to speak.
Paul never mentions angels visiting him to impart truth, it was by direct communications with Christ or by revelation of the spirit backed by corroboration with known accepted scripture at the time.
And this is the tricky part because I do believe that the outward works of the Holy spirit and miracles and other “giftings” were not just the 1st century. God even promised that in the latter days that he would pour out his spirit upon all flesh...
Yet we have a crafty enemy that knows the fallability of even God’s elect to seek after signs when the only genuine sign that Christ would show this generation was the sign of Jonah. There are many false Christs and some of them may even be empowered to perform lying wonders...
400 years into captivity, Satan knew that God had promised that Israel would be freed so he crafted the destruction of Israel’s first born through the pharoah’s...yet Moses was miraculously protected and even raised by the Egyptians who were other-wise sworn to kill his infant brethren...Oh the praise the mercy and wisdom of God! Satan knew that a move of God was a foot so he attempted to strangle this move in it’s “crib” so to speak...but failed! Satan may be attempting again in our time to cloud God’s genuine move of the spirit with his own lying counter moves!
A new move of God is afoot now that may ultimately lead to the empowerment of his people to bear up under adversity until Christ should come and set up his kingdom; until such time as the rapture or the great “catching away” and the ultimate tribulation on the Earth; at the end of which Christ shall reign in the New Jerusalem! When such a rapture should come has always been argued, but my main point is that at the end of it all, Christ reigns supreme!
Now I surmise Satan, knowing that his time is short is going to put his “magicians” out there to counter in the minds of the unsaved the true spiritual works of the Spirit filled... much like Pharoah’s magicians attempting to counter Moses and Aaron’s works. The results of course were disastrous for Pharoah.
Now I claim no special revelations, I just read the Bible and the same Satanic patterns are discernible through-out the history of God’s people and the world.
God’s 2 witnesses are coming as well as the rise of the 144,000 and the Devil knows it!
Elijah has come and again is coming; so said our Lord of John the Baptist and of the mightier works of the Spirit to come!
Spoken with the wisdom that comes from James 3.
The International Coalition of Apostles?
Sigh.
Todd Bentley glories in himself:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRJX55HkY1k&feature=related
Todd claims to have a demon - a Christian CANNOT be possessed by a demon!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJKRczp2HN8&feature=related
Bentley’s strange doctrine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqJaJzHdGaI&feature=related
False Christs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksvU311VL4w&feature=related
Bentley’s gobbledygook:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Vpre4pVGWs&feature=related
On fire?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwlRisYyGAI&feature=related
It’s beyond disgusting. How anyone - much less any Christian - could think this madness is of God strikes me as lunacy.
I have come away with the sad belief from my discernment that he is demon-possessed, as well as a heavy, heavy burden for something with regard to this. I know not what the Lord has planned, but He has burdened me for a reason I know.
It doesn't really matter. God's way is the Best Way ANYway and I'll do as He asks.
After "discovering" TB this week, it was joyous when I discovered a minister via YouTube. And heard one of the greatest sermons of the modern age. Paul Washer's address to the Youth Conference. WOW.
A good friend of mine who pastors a church in north Texas is a personal friend of Paul Washer. My grown son listens to Washer. That message was the first one I heard from Washer. Pow!
Check out this link for a message to the Southern Baptist of Texas in 2006, delivered with little notice. The speaker is one of the elders of a local church that I am desperately wanting to join - struggling with worldliness in my church and my desire to contend vs leave.
http://www.gracefamilybaptist.net/GFBC_/Podcast/Entries/2008/1/11_The_Centrality_of_the_Home.html
Check out this link for a video that gives Biblical instruction for discerning Truth from error:
http://pjmiller.wordpress.com/2008/06/26/false-prophets-and-the-conspiracy-of-silence/
Just to keep as much information as possible together:
More heresy and anti-Christ:
http://pjmiller.wordpress.com/2008/06/25/video-bentleys-knighting-commission/
Biblical encouragement:
http://pjmiller.wordpress.com/2008/06/25/get-away-from-their-altars/
Those people do not want Christ. They do not want The Truth
People have not changed in 2008 years. They want to hear what makes them “feel good”. They want “spirit-y experiences” not truth.
That is why the phonies like Bentley,Osteen, Copeland, Hihn, Charisma, et al are so popular. Heck today’s pop-preachers can say ANYTHING mixed with bits of scripture and as long as it makes folks FEEL good they do not exmamine the message.
They are literally blinded to truth.Plus of course folks buy the books and send donations and attend “revivals” etc $$$
And boy do the pop-preachers and their followers get steamed if you tear at the seams of their message. They ALWAYS accuse their critics of being from Satan.
bentley: “...I want to be part of a movement.
Mr. Bentley you are part of a movement... ;/
We just left our church for the same reason. And joined a Grace church...wow! Authentic Biblical preaching of the Word as well as a Shepherd who takes his job seriously! We have since left the original church and are attending Grace regularly. As a result, our entire family’s spiritual walk has deepened (even my 9 year old son’s!) and we’re discovering such gems as John Macarthur, Piper and Washer. Like finally getting a drink of cold water after working in the fields all day!
Wonderful wonderful!
They have itchy ears. So very sad.
It takes effort and courage watch and listen to these kinds of “preachers” objectively. They are very sly at getting folks to conform to their gospel and they try to intimidate, silence or marginalize those that question them.
It might be fun for you and your son to study/test the gospel of Bentley against The Gospel of Christ and see what you find.
Here are a couple of resources to assist in discernment-
equip.org
str.org
bible.org
Take care,
Jane
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