Posted on 06/14/2008 7:03:50 AM PDT by markomalley
I was curious in measuring the interest of Catholic FReepers to starting a weekly discussion on the Catechism. The format would be to post a small selection of the Catechism (starting with paragraph 1) and post as many of the sources of the footnotes as possible (those that are online). As far as discussion goes, if folk have any articles, homilies, or other resources regarding the particular section being cited. If there are agreements, disagreements, general discussion on the subject, or whatever, I would think it appropriate. My inclination, as with other things, would be to make these discussions [OPEN] threads (as per the RM guidance on the subject). My feeling is that if the Faith is genuine and authentic, it should be able to stand up to any tirade that is given against it. You can either argue from facts, tell the detractor he is full of cr@p, or ignore him/her. I might be able to be persuaded to make them [ECUMENIC], though, if there is simply too much distraction. However, I really don't want to make them caucus threads, as non-Catholics who might actually like to constructively participate might be driven away because of that. But the big thing is to find out if there are people who are actually interested in actively participating in these threads that I'm proposing. I DON'T want an amen corner (if that is what happens, my motivation to continue will be greatly dampened) I would like to create a ping list for those folks who are interested in actively participating in this. Catholic or interested non-Catholic. So let me know if you are interested. I Tim 3:15-16 …sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts. Always be ready to give an explanation to anyone who asks you for a reason for your hope, but do it with gentleness and reverence, keeping your conscience clear, so that, when you are maligned, those who defame your good conduct in Christ may themselves be put to shame.
I would be interested in such a thread....I also think that having such a thread would be best as an Ecumenical thread....in that way, the Catholics can present their Catechism, present their point of view, and those who disagree with that, could post why they disagree with that, and present their point of view, in a civil and enlightening manner...
Hopefully in that way, the other posters, and possible lurkers, can get information without all the distractions that often go on, on the open threads....
If each poster can present their point of view, without being disparaging of other folks religions, that would be great, for me...simply because I dont consider what Catholics might say about any particular non-Catholic’s religion to be reliable, any more, that I consider what non-Catholics say about the Catholic religion to be reliable...I like to get my information, from those who have studied their particular religion, and practice their particular religion....I mean, if I want to get my heart checked out, I go to a cardiologist, I dont go to a plastic surgeon...and I see a lot of this type of back and forth on the open threads...
I want to know what the Catholics know to be their religion, I dont want to concern my self with what the non-Catholics think they know about the Catholic religion....and the opposite is true...I want to know what the non-Catholics know to be their religion, not what the Catholics think they know about the non-Catholic religion...
I mean, just one instance stands out from the open threads...if I was to believe what the non-Catholics say about their Catholics, I would have to believe, that Catholics never read their Bibles...which I personally know to be quite untrue, as I know lots of Catholics in real life who read and study their Bibles daily...on the other hand, if I was to believe what Catholics, say about non-Catholics, I would have to believe that non-Catholics go so far as to make the Bible a type of idol...again, untrue, as I know plenty of non-Catholics who read and study their Bible daily, but do not make an idol of it....
To me, it is just completely unreliable to know what Catholics believe, when the opinion comes from a Non-Catholic, and it is just as unreliable to know what non-Catholics believe, when the opinion comes from Catholic...
If all sides, could just present their point of view, from their own knowledge, personal experience, study, etc. that would be informative and most likely enlightening for many here....in that way, all sides of the discussion, would have their point of view in plain sight for all the others to examine...and surely, all sides should be able to present what they believe, without disparaging others...
Disparaging those of other religions, making up falsehoods about other religions, making fun of those of other religions, is never useful, as least not for me...I am sure, others would disagree with me about that, but my one solitary vote, would be to have this discussion in an Ecumenical thread...For those that wish to mock those of other religions, for those that want to make up falsehoods about other religions, for those who want to be disparaging of other religions, there are always plenty of open threads for that...
However, whatever is decided is fine with me...
I will be interested to see how this all plays out...
Please include this Catholic!
I’ll answer for we who are Catholic—no, that’s not “about right”. As a matter of fact, it’s quite wrong, it is a false premise and needs to be refuted.
Any who would present this premise as “truth” cannot be committed to truth in reality.
it is perfumed.
You should enable the forum. I would gladly join for theological discussion
I would be very interested in such a thread, especially as it presents us an opportunity to integrate Catholic teaching with our daily lives. Our Catechism is truly inspirational—this is a very exciting idea! (Make it ecumenical, though, please.)
Count me in.
I’d like it too, but it’s not going to happen until I learn php, and figure out what to do about the spammers. It was really intense for a while there, and being on dial-up made it overwhelming.
The only way to make it work would be by invitation only.
Ping me, thanks. Will post more tomorrow to you.
I’m very interested, with reservations.
Just my opinion: ecumenic threads, as opposed to open threads, would be better.
Frankly, I’m pretty sick of the juvenile, strident, petty judgmental, legalistic protestant contingent. This would be a real test of the ecumenic format and rules, though...I suspect the threads would be spammed with countless TOPIOS discussion and high-fiving. No rules can force the immature to behave, when they think they have duty to disparage and disrupt.
Was curious how many knew the difference and how to tell them apart (title was catechism, after all). Your point (of the photo of the horn toad) was ... ?
I can only tell you how we tell at our parish, they are marked.
The Chrism oil is used for Confirmation and it is made of olive oil with balsam.
Freep-mail me to get on or off my pro-life and Catholic List:
Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of interest.
Mark - please add me. Unless I hear otherwise I will ping this list whenever you ask.
It’s a good idear for a thread series. I don’t see how anyone can be miffed at the possable ecumenical designation. As long as folks can declare what their own faith teaches about whatever particular subject from the Catechism the thread is expounding on, why should they care?
It’s on them if they can’t get their ideas over without relying on attacking another faith.
Freegards
It’s an Australian bearded dragon, and it’s cute. We bought two yesterday.
Brings to mind about a saying that goes beauty is in the eye of the beholder?
You don’t like herpets? Sigh ...
How about starting with scripture?
I agree.
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