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Attention Catholic FReepers (OPEN)
6/14/2008 | vanity

Posted on 06/14/2008 7:03:50 AM PDT by markomalley

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To: Salvation

I would be interested in such a thread....I also think that having such a thread would be best as an Ecumenical thread....in that way, the Catholics can present their Catechism, present their point of view, and those who disagree with that, could post why they disagree with that, and present their point of view, in a civil and enlightening manner...

Hopefully in that way, the other posters, and possible lurkers, can get information without all the distractions that often go on, on the open threads....

If each poster can present their point of view, without being disparaging of other folks religions, that would be great, for me...simply because I dont consider what Catholics might say about any particular non-Catholic’s religion to be reliable, any more, that I consider what non-Catholics say about the Catholic religion to be reliable...I like to get my information, from those who have studied their particular religion, and practice their particular religion....I mean, if I want to get my heart checked out, I go to a cardiologist, I dont go to a plastic surgeon...and I see a lot of this type of back and forth on the open threads...

I want to know what the Catholics know to be their religion, I dont want to concern my self with what the non-Catholics think they know about the Catholic religion....and the opposite is true...I want to know what the non-Catholics know to be their religion, not what the Catholics think they know about the non-Catholic religion...

I mean, just one instance stands out from the open threads...if I was to believe what the non-Catholics say about their Catholics, I would have to believe, that Catholics never read their Bibles...which I personally know to be quite untrue, as I know lots of Catholics in real life who read and study their Bibles daily...on the other hand, if I was to believe what Catholics, say about non-Catholics, I would have to believe that non-Catholics go so far as to make the Bible a type of idol...again, untrue, as I know plenty of non-Catholics who read and study their Bible daily, but do not make an idol of it....

To me, it is just completely unreliable to know what Catholics believe, when the opinion comes from a Non-Catholic, and it is just as unreliable to know what non-Catholics believe, when the opinion comes from Catholic...

If all sides, could just present their point of view, from their own knowledge, personal experience, study, etc. that would be informative and most likely enlightening for many here....in that way, all sides of the discussion, would have their point of view in plain sight for all the others to examine...and surely, all sides should be able to present what they believe, without disparaging others...

Disparaging those of other religions, making up falsehoods about other religions, making fun of those of other religions, is never useful, as least not for me...I am sure, others would disagree with me about that, but my one solitary vote, would be to have this discussion in an Ecumenical thread...For those that wish to mock those of other religions, for those that want to make up falsehoods about other religions, for those who want to be disparaging of other religions, there are always plenty of open threads for that...

However, whatever is decided is fine with me...

I will be interested to see how this all plays out...


41 posted on 06/14/2008 2:12:08 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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To: markomalley

Please include this Catholic!


42 posted on 06/14/2008 2:20:40 PM PDT by Bookem_Danno
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To: 1000 silverlings

I’ll answer for we who are Catholic—no, that’s not “about right”. As a matter of fact, it’s quite wrong, it is a false premise and needs to be refuted.

Any who would present this premise as “truth” cannot be committed to truth in reality.


43 posted on 06/14/2008 2:35:43 PM PDT by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words:"It's too late"))
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To: markomalley
Not a RC (Episcopalian), but heard this at a recent Mass where kids were being confirmed and wondered how many RC FReepers would know. (I think I have this right) There are three oils used in the Roman Catholic community. 1. Is for annointing the sick, 2. for Baptism (another sacrament) and the third is for (instances such as confirmation...does anyone know how to tell the one that is used for confirmation? (answer below, be honest, in replying if you didn't know...
















it is perfumed.

44 posted on 06/14/2008 2:49:07 PM PDT by meandog ((please pray for future President McCain, day minus 226 and counting))
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To: Mad Dawg

You should enable the forum. I would gladly join for theological discussion


45 posted on 06/14/2008 4:17:01 PM PDT by ChurtleDawg (voting only encourages them)
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To: markomalley

I would be very interested in such a thread, especially as it presents us an opportunity to integrate Catholic teaching with our daily lives. Our Catechism is truly inspirational—this is a very exciting idea! (Make it ecumenical, though, please.)


46 posted on 06/14/2008 4:54:55 PM PDT by GrannyML
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To: meandog
We have Oil of Catechumens, Sacred Chrism, and Oil of the Sick. Your point was ... ?


47 posted on 06/14/2008 5:25:45 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Drill! Drill!! Drill!!!)
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To: markomalley

Count me in.


48 posted on 06/14/2008 5:39:12 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: ChurtleDawg

I’d like it too, but it’s not going to happen until I learn php, and figure out what to do about the spammers. It was really intense for a while there, and being on dial-up made it overwhelming.

The only way to make it work would be by invitation only.


49 posted on 06/14/2008 6:22:38 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: markomalley

Ping me, thanks. Will post more tomorrow to you.


50 posted on 06/14/2008 8:14:00 PM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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To: markomalley

I’m very interested, with reservations.

Just my opinion: ecumenic threads, as opposed to open threads, would be better.

Frankly, I’m pretty sick of the juvenile, strident, petty judgmental, legalistic protestant contingent. This would be a real test of the ecumenic format and rules, though...I suspect the threads would be spammed with countless TOPIOS discussion and high-fiving. No rules can force the immature to behave, when they think they have duty to disparage and disrupt.


51 posted on 06/14/2008 11:39:55 PM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: Tax-chick
Your point was ... ?

Was curious how many knew the difference and how to tell them apart (title was catechism, after all). Your point (of the photo of the horn toad) was ... ?

52 posted on 06/15/2008 1:16:16 PM PDT by meandog ((please pray for future President McCain, day minus 226 and counting))
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To: meandog

I can only tell you how we tell at our parish, they are marked.

The Chrism oil is used for Confirmation and it is made of olive oil with balsam.


53 posted on 06/15/2008 1:32:49 PM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: markomalley; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
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Freep-mail me to get on or off my pro-life and Catholic List:

Add me / Remove me

Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of interest.

Mark - please add me. Unless I hear otherwise I will ping this list whenever you ask.

54 posted on 06/15/2008 1:34:35 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: markomalley

It’s a good idear for a thread series. I don’t see how anyone can be miffed at the possable ecumenical designation. As long as folks can declare what their own faith teaches about whatever particular subject from the Catechism the thread is expounding on, why should they care?
It’s on them if they can’t get their ideas over without relying on attacking another faith.

Freegards


55 posted on 06/15/2008 4:44:21 PM PDT by Ransomed (Son of Ransomed says Keep the Faith!)
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To: meandog

It’s an Australian bearded dragon, and it’s cute. We bought two yesterday.


56 posted on 06/15/2008 5:37:53 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Drill! Drill!! Drill!!!)
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To: Tax-chick
and it’s cute...

Brings to mind about a saying that goes beauty is in the eye of the beholder?

57 posted on 06/15/2008 5:56:26 PM PDT by meandog ((please pray for future President McCain, day minus 226 and counting))
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To: meandog

You don’t like herpets? Sigh ...


58 posted on 06/15/2008 6:51:49 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Drill! Drill!! Drill!!!)
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To: markomalley

How about starting with scripture?


59 posted on 06/15/2008 7:22:09 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Iron and clay don't mix. - Daniel)
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To: sitetest
It’s difficult to have deep discussions of theological topics once the anti-Catholics show up. Their... “input” - such as it is - tends to keep the discussions trivial and shallow. As well, the vain repetitions of anti-Catholic mantras make it difficult to move through threads, as often, one must scroll through many screenfuls of sewage before finding the lone, occasional nugget of worthwhile posting.

I agree.

60 posted on 06/15/2008 7:40:26 PM PDT by Hacksaw (I support the San Fran tiger.)
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