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To: LeGrande
LOL You really don't have a clue do you? You are referencing the the wrong angle. If your observer was on the sun you would be correct.



Look at the diagram again: (And remember he's on a flat plane, thank you very much) When the observer starts in the center, the sun is directly overhead, that is to say, 90 degrees. But when he travels his 143.5 miles, the sun will now be 90.000088 degrees above the plane (Assuming he is still facing the direction he traveled in.) And I've got news for you - the difference between 90.000000 and 90.000088 is 0.000088, not 2.100000 ! It doesn't matter how big the earth is or whether it is square or shaped like you described with a 143.5 mile flat spot on it -- if the distance between the sun and the observer is 1AU and he travels initially at right angles to the sun in a straight line for 143.5 miles, the sun's position will change by 0.000088 degrees -- not 2.1! This is simple geometry.

And even thought I have found and linked for you lots of websites supporting my view, you have not showed me a single such website. Doesn't that cause you to stop and think? Maybe you're wrong on some stuff?

-Jesse
648 posted on 07/13/2008 11:13:10 PM PDT by mrjesse (Could it be true? Imagine, being forgiven, and having a cause, greater then yourself, to live for!)
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To: mrjesse
Jesse, Jesse, Jesse. Lets do a little recap. First off you are now acknowledging that the suns apparent position and actual position are different, which was my whole point in the first place. Now you seem to be bickering with me over the point of reference.

For my efforts towards enlightening you, you and your buddies called me a deceitful atheist. But the truth is your and your creationist friends are the ignorant reprobates.

Now back to the example, both observers see the sun directly overhead, remember the light from the sun is parallel at the earth, and the angle between them is determined by drawing a line through each observer to the center of the earth. That angle (2.07) illustrates the difference between the actual position of the sun and where one of the observers apparently sees the sun.

Now if we put the observers on the surface of the sun and did the same experiment there then yes the angle would be .00008 degrees off (adjusting our distances of course).

But the fact remains that we are now simply quibbling over frames of reference and yet you want me to appeal to authority before you will believe. That doesn't surprise me in the least. Everything you believe is based on an appeal to authority (The Bible), but that isn't how science works. Science tells its followers to find out the truth for themselves, if someone tells you something that you think is wrong, prove them wrong, that way everyone benefits.

You don't know how glad I am that we got sidetracked and never got around to talking about fields.

653 posted on 07/14/2008 6:37:50 AM PDT by LeGrande
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