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To: xzins
I'll repost my earlier comment that was on the other thread.

His body is not located in the elements themselves, nor in thousands of churches at the same time, as Luther understood, but rather his body remains in heaven where Christ is seated at the right hand of the Father. Nevertheless, we understand that the true, physical, glorified body and blood of our savior, while located in heaven at the Father’s right hand, are truly distributed to us and we feed on them to our spiritual nourishment by the mysterious and powerful working of the Holy Spirit.

So, I'm confused. Your belief is that the Bread and Wine do not become the Body and Blood until it is consumed? And one of the issues you have with the Orthodox, Catholics, and Lutherans is that Christ's body is in Heaven and cannot be present on Earth in the myraid of different Churches?

7 posted on 06/02/2008 1:11:54 PM PDT by thefrankbaum (Ad maiorem Dei gloriam)
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To: thefrankbaum; Gamecock; Dr. Eckleburg; betty boop

As I understand this article, it says Calvin believed that Jesus is seated at the right hand of God the Father. His was a bodily resurrection, and after that resurrection was an ascension to the throne of God.

Therefore, Calvin might say, the bread and wine are not little pieces of Jesus, because Jesus is at the right hand of God. Yet, Calvin took seriously that statement of Paul that we PARTICIPATE in the body and blood of the Lord.

Calvin said that Christ is “really...spiritually, present to the faith of believers in that ordinance, as the elements themselves to their outward senses.”

By faith, Jesus is SPIRITUALLY present. To Calvin, the Spiritual was the ultimate Reality, because God is Spirit, and God is Real.

By outward sense I am in the flesh a sinful man. By Spiritual sense I am a child of the Living God.


8 posted on 06/02/2008 1:47:26 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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