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To: nanetteclaret
With all due respect, RM, this gets a bit tiresome when one does it over and over with the same people, day after day. One begins to wonder if these people have some sort of comprehension problem or if they are just forgetful about what was told to them the day (or hour or minute) before.

Then one should remember that contending against certain doctrines is a matter of faithfulness to some. In other words, if they did not confront what they understand to be false doctrine they would not be worshipping God.

The objective on the Religion Forum is for all religious conservatives to have a voice with no one group dominating over the others. Some are being faithful in their beliefs by gravitating to the devotionals, some to the caucuses, some to the open debate.

There is no "official" religion on the forum - and I'm not the arbiter of truth, fact, logic or meaning of words.

So yes, in order for your fellow religious conservative to exercise his faith, you will no doubt have to answer the very same allegation for the umpteenth time on 'open' threads. Or put him on virtual "ignore."

711 posted on 05/30/2008 9:59:33 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: nanetteclaret
With all due respect, RM, this gets a bit tiresome when one does it over and over with the same people, day after day.

I'm sure God feels the same way about me and my own obstinance.

Take heart. You win graces for strangers by your witness to the faith. The purpose of being Catholic is not to feel good at the end of the day. We're the main attraction in the battle against the dominion of Satan. It will never be easy.

717 posted on 05/30/2008 10:10:38 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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To: Judith Anne; Petronski; OpusatFR

>>Then one should remember that contending against certain doctrines is a matter of faithfulness to some. In other words, if they did not confront what they understand to be false doctrine they would not be worshipping God.<<

Sorry this took so long. Nothing Personal and I’m not talking about one specific person so I hope no one is thin skinned about it.

In the DSM-IV this is called Obsessive Compulsive Disorder with religious delusions.

I would code it with a primary ICD-9 code of 300.3 for the OCD
(criteria from the DSM-IV
Obsessions are defined by:

Recurrent and persistent thoughts, impulses, or images that are experienced at some time during the disturbance, as intrusive and inappropriate and that cause marked anxiety or distress.
The thoughts, impulses, or images are not simply excessive worries about real-life problems.
The person attempts to ignore or suppress such thoughts, impulses, or images, or to neutralize them with some other thought or action.
The person recognizes that the obsessional thoughts, impulses, or images are a product of his or her own mind, and are not based in reality.

Compulsions are defined by:
Repetitive behaviors or mental acts that the person feels driven to perform in response to an obsession, or according to rules that must be applied rigidly.
The behaviors or mental acts are aimed at preventing or reducing distress or preventing some dreaded event or situation; however, these behaviors or mental acts either are not connected in a realistic way with what they are designed to neutralize or prevent or are clearly excessive.

criteria not inclusive)

And a secondary of religious delusion with an ICD-9 code of 297.
Clearly, when a person is told, for example, that Catholics do not believe that Mary is needed for salvation and that person insists that this is fact, it is a religious delusion. Referenced here in DSM

“A false belief based on incorrect inference about external reality that is firmly sustained despite what almost everybody else believes and despite what constitutes incontrovertible and obvious proof or evidence to the contrary. The belief is not one ordinarily accepted by other members of the person’s culture or subculture”

While neither of these disorders are disturbing to lifestyle, both are considered inappropriate in society and are easily controlled with a Seratonin reuptake inhibitor such as Paxil, Prozac or Zoloft.

I’m not really sure that encouraging these behaviors is
helpful, at least that’s what I found when I was dealing with patients.

Anyway, gotta go guys. My backyard is nothing but twirly-wirly maple seeds that have to be swept.


847 posted on 05/30/2008 12:12:33 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ironmom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
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