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To: tiki
IOW, we are CATHOLIC, we believe what the CATHOLIC church teaches, if we thought that the Methodists, or the Presbyterians or the Lutherans had the whole of the truth we’d be them. We don’t believe they do and so we are CATHOLIC.

But there are some beliefs that Catholics, Lutherans, and Methodists share, right? Do you believe the beliefs that Catholics share with Protestant denominations are more important than with the ones shared with Buddhist, or Muslim branches?

I make no apologies, if anyone wants to play the victim that is their prerogative, but I will not cower in my conviction.

Please don't cower, society is crumbling--especially in Europe--because of cowering Catholics. This isn't a Catholic Caucus thread though, so don't be surprised when someone leaves one large highly represented group for another that there are people who object to jubilation over winning over a "convert" who was already Christian.

419 posted on 05/29/2008 1:50:13 PM PDT by dan1123 (If you want to find a person's true religion, ask them what makes them a "good person".)
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To: dan1123
Please don't cower, society is crumbling--especially in Europe--because of cowering Catholics.

And Evangelicals, Protestants, Lutherans, can do nothing? Amazing. Once again, Bush--er, Catholics' fault.

so don't be surprised when someone leaves one large highly represented group for another that there are people who object to jubilation over winning over a "convert" who was already Christian.

Why would anyone be surprised when sola scriptura evangelical (but otherwise unidentified) protestants fail to rejoice over one of their own beocming Catholic?

422 posted on 05/29/2008 2:02:36 PM PDT by Judith Anne ( If the shoe fits, wear it!)
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To: dan1123
Please don't cower, society is crumbling--especially in Europe--because of cowering Catholics Christians.

There... fixed that for you. England, Germany, the Scandinavian Nations, and the Netherlands, all of which are largely Protestant, are crumbling as well; indeed some faster than the historically Catholic countries. France, the Eldest Daughter of the Church, has been sickly for centuries, but only after the Revolution. Spain suffers under the scourge of the socialists. Fervently Catholic Poland has weathered the storm better than most.

Not that Catholics don't need to take some blame... but it isn't just us.

426 posted on 05/29/2008 2:07:20 PM PDT by GCC Catholic (Sour grapes make terrible whine.)
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