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To: xzins; Ultra Sonic 007; ImaGraftedBranch
Well, leaving aside the guilty until proven innocent aspect of all this, and agreeing that in a way the post is asking for assistance in a personal step, so personal charges may be appropriate, the first ting to do is to distinguish between seeing something to be good and deciding to become a part of it.

In one example US7 approvingly pings his (Catholic)father to a thread about the Pope. This shows he was then Catholic or had then decided to become Catholic? On the one or two occasions when the Episcopal Church did something right and a Catholic friend would tell me, that PROVED he was a crypto-Episcopalian?

I k now that those who are devoted to the Word, don't like it when we look at the actual words and their possible meanings, but in the second example, we have a ping to some Catholics, with the words, "Catholic Ping". Well THAT's incriminating, isn't it? Except that a "Catholic Ping" could just as well be TOO Catholics, or ABOUT Catholics, as FROM a Catholic.

In the third example, on a thread about Our Lady of Guadelupe, we have an incriminating ping. Tis was about 6-7 months ago.Would it be better if US7 engaged in no thought or cocnveersation and keo himself from any knowledge of the Church until AFTEr he decided to join? Would that make his decision wiser and more credible?

It seems the case against US7 amounts to, "For three years or more, this man has been aware of the Church of which family members are adherents, has engaged in conversation, PUBLIC conversation no less, about that Church, and NOW he days he's decided to join it himself.

Well, THAT's suspicious!

NOT!

The argument seems to be that one can only be EITHER:
1) Ignorant of the existence of the Catholic Church;
2) Openly opposed to the Catholic Church; or
3) A member or spy or co-collaborator or unindicted co-conspirator of the Catholic Church. US7 was niether 1 nor 3, so he must be 3.

The possibility that one might spend a few years in a process of decision making about what might be the most important decision of one's life is evidently not deemed worthy of consideration.

No sale. Case dismissed for trying to spin a verdict out of gossamer.

1,060 posted on 05/31/2008 6:49:00 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg

Heh. I’m a #3 also. :D


1,062 posted on 05/31/2008 6:52:32 AM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: Mad Dawg; Dr. Eckleburg; 1000 silverlings; P-Marlowe; Gamecock

If you read my post again, I said that the existence of US7 RC pings back to 2005 and the lack of Prot pings at all raises reasonable doubts. It does. No denying it.


1,073 posted on 05/31/2008 7:26:40 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: Mad Dawg; xzins
Take a look at his website on abortion, and then you may judge the character of US: the best anti-abortion website on the internet There is nothing duplicitous about him. Period.
1,098 posted on 05/31/2008 8:07:34 AM PDT by ImaGraftedBranch (...And we, poor fools, demand truth's noon, who scarce can bear its crescent moon.)
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