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Posted on 05/28/2008 6:05:04 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007
Hello fellow Freepers. I believe this is my first post on the Religion forum.
Over the past week or so, I put some thought into something I've been pondering for a while; my spiritual welfare. As it was, I had been part of the 'Sola Scriptua' school of thought (Evangelical Christian). By the Bible and only the Bible. Sounded good enough.
Well...what about before the Bible was put into word? It stuck in my head when reading an article earlier on FR concerning a deconstruction of Sola Scriptura and its inherent weaknesses as a foundation for one's faith.
This, combined with a genuine lack of churchgoing (as a family, we've been uncertain about going to various churches, given that top-down problems with Episcopal/Methodist/etc. churches and their increasing liberalization are a genuine problem for one's spiritual welfare), compelled me to make a decision.
I don't know if my family will follow me, persay, but I'm going to go ahead and take the plunge.
Next month, I'm going to the Church of St. Thomas the Apostle near my home, and I'm joining the Roman Catholic Church.
As is, I have a few volumes of the Magnificat pamphlet and the Catechism of the Catholic Church to read.
Any other pointers from other Catholic Freepers?
I'll send a transmittal letter ASAP, I'll sign it 1000 Silverlings, 007
Well that’s what I surmised
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Baptismal regeneration is a fable concocted by Rome to keep the masses tethered to the strings of the magisterium.
If God has named someone to be among His family, that person will repent, believe and be baptized, according to the work of the indwelling Holy Spirit.
Among Western Christians there are four major views on baptism:
*Baptism is a public testimony to one's faith in Jesus Christ. Only those who have reached the age of discretion can make such a profession of faith. Therefore, only those who are able to confess Christ should be baptized. (Baptist). *Baptism is so closely related to the gospel that through it, Christians receive eternal life and without baptism there can be no assurance of salvation. Both the children of believers and unbaptized adult believers should be baptized (Lutheran). *Baptism is a means of sanctifying grace and a gospel ministry to the people of God. It is a sign and seal of the Covenant of Grace illustrating what Christ has done for his people and sealing salvation to the same. Therefore covenant children of believing parents as well as unbaptized adult converts should be baptized. (Reformed). *Baptism is the means of spiritual renewal and initial justification and sanctification through the infusion of grace received in it, in such a way that one cannot be saved ordinarily without it. Baptism communicates saving grace, by the working of its own power. Children of all church members and unbaptized adult converts must be baptized (Roman Catholic).
Protestants uniformly reject the Roman Catholic view of baptism as unbiblical and sub-Christian since it replaces faith as the instrument of justification.
Not at all. I know far far less Hebrew than you, clearly.
Can you, would you say why it seems odd? There are, I believe, a number of provisions for "un-excommunication". For example a priest who breaks the seal is latae sententiae excommunicated and the excommunication can be lifted only by the pope. Gamow's taking home of a consecrated host for examination under a microscope would be another such latae sententiae excommunication with restoration reserved to the Holy See.. So there seem to be more than one provision for restoration after ex-communication.
I will. I had gone googling for it, but couldn’t find it. I would’ve guessed, “the Book of Jubilees.” Now, I’m wondering if I picked up a a source with a weak argument: I found a passage in Jubilees which describes Mount Zion and the Garden of Eden, from whence waters flowed when Man did have eternal life, as the “navel” of the Earth.
(Who knew Mount Zion was a navel base?)
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O come, Thou Wisdom from on high, who orderest all things mightily.
And the peace of the Sabbath be with you, also, starting at sunset. :D
Ping to #807.
>>But the whole point is to worship the bible along with all the saints and everything else
I’ll send a transmittal letter ASAP, I’ll sign it 1000 Silverlings, 007 <<
Hmmm, I think Rome would not be happy with your worshiping any of those. You might have to start your own church. But that’s really nothing new, is it?
Hi, UltraS
I look forward to your pursuit of your interest in becoming Catholic. You have had so many posts from Catholics letting you know what their favorite books and reading materials are and I’m sure that you will be guided to choose from among them—and even eventually get around to reading them all. I’m glad you are so young—(the same age as I was when I entered the Catholic Church).
You have received so much good counsel here that the only thing I can add is this:
When you do actually become one of us, I would like to ask that you will commit to the prayerful readings of the Scriptures for the Mass of each day and take those Scriptures and engrave them on your heart. I hope you will rejoice in the Mass and the Holy Eucharist and that your joy will be given to others.
FReeper Salvation always posts the Mass readings of the day. Today is the Feast of the Sacred Heart of Jesus and Mass readings from Deuteronomy, 1John and the Gospel are so beautiful.
I offer them to you as my gift to you this day.
Rejoice and be grateful for your youth and energy, for your interest in matters of spiritual growth, and for your grace under fire.
Grace and peace and fellowship in Christ Jesus be yours now and forever.
ROE
“Protestants uniformly reject the Roman Catholic view of baptism as unbiblical and sub-Christian since it replaces faith as the instrument of justification”
That’s nice.
And we reject your view. Okay. Now go play.
>>And we reject your view. Okay. Now go play.<<
You made me spew coffee on my screen. LOL!
Well, I studied Hebrew for 10 years . . . when I started, I thought I’d just take a semester or two, just to get the basics, but I absolutely fell in love with it and kept going!
Of course we all deserve punishment for our sins, but Pharoah’s sins were especially heinous. Similarly, I think it’s possible that God hardened the heart of Hitler when he decided to invade Yugoslavia to punish a popular revolt against his puppet government - instead of going directly to Russia - the very difference in timing that caused the Nazis to be trapped in the Russian winter that led to their demise. God let Hitler’s psychosis become a weapon against himself, much as Pharoah’s hardened heart with regard to the Hebrews.
We also have to keep in mind that God foresaw the choices that both Pharoah and Hitler would make with their free will, thus, the hardening of their hearts would not be an encouragement to sin, but a re-directing of their foreseen sin to an outcome that would become their just punishment, instead.
Uniformly?
You're saying all?
And at your First Eucharist US007, please pray for my girls.
If you would be so kind....
Traditions of men.
Protestants uniformly reject the Roman Catholic view of baptism as unbiblical and sub-Christian since it replaces faith as the instrument of justification
Uniformly?
Are you claiming to speak for all Protestants?
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