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To: restornu

Wait a minute... why are you arguing for a Unitarian anyway?

John Calvin thought Servetus should be executed for heresy. Compared with the evidence necessary to begin a Spanish Inquisition, it’s amazing they waited this long. Any Roman Catholic at the time would have agreed: Servetus belonged to no major sect at the time because of his anti-Trinitarian beliefs.

But John Calvin did plead with the canton for an easier death than burning at the stake. Considering, that’s a pretty big gift in and of itself.

I’m not trying to defend the entire affair. I think execution’s much too harsh for Servetus. Just as I think the Spanish Inquisition was a bad idea. But I don’t want to argue scale or any of that nonsense. I’m curious as to how Servetus applies to the discussion of the Roman Catholic Mass.


60 posted on 05/26/2008 6:37:37 AM PDT by figgers3036
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To: figgers3036
Wait a minute... why are you arguing for a Unitarian anyway?

John Calvin thought Servetus should be executed for heresy. Compared with the evidence necessary to begin a Spanish Inquisition, it’s amazing they waited this long. Any Roman Catholic at the time would have agreed: Servetus belonged to no major sect at the time because of his anti-Trinitarian beliefs.

But John Calvin did plead with the canton for an easier death than burning at the stake. Considering, that’s a pretty big gift in and of itself.

I’m not trying to defend the entire affair. I think execution’s much too harsh for Servetus. Just as I think the Spanish Inquisition was a bad idea. But I don’t want to argue scale or any of that nonsense. I’m curious as to how Servetus applies to the discussion of the Roman Catholic Mass.

1- I don't know to believe

2- I dom't know what the unitarians were like in those days as compared today version

3- Servetus did not acept the Trinity Creed but did believe in the Father and Son.

4- The words he prayed to as was burning was -

When the executioner began his work, Servetus whispered with trembling voice: 'Oh God, Oh God!'

The thwarted Farel snapped at him: 'Have you nothing else to say?'

This time Servetus replied to him: 'What else might I do, but speak of God!'

Thereupon he was lifted onto the pyre and chained to the stake. A wreath strewn with sulfur was placed on his head.

When the faggots were ignited, a piercing cry of horror broke from him. 'Mercy, mercy!' he cried.

For more than half an hour the horrible agony continued, for the pyre had been made of half-green wood, which burned slowly.

'Jesus, Son of the eternal God, have mercy on me,' the tormented man cried from the midst of the flames ...."(11)

68 posted on 05/26/2008 6:50:59 AM PDT by restornu ( Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another. 1 John 11)
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