I was bad-tempered. But I do think it would be good to explore "substance" and "real" as well as "sacramental" before taking the doctrine on.
A lot of your arguments are good a difficult. I feel that they've been addressed earlier, and I'm just a little tired. But I hope somebody picks them up instead of engaging in a zillion post hissy fit.
438 posted on 05/28/2008 2:49:38 PM PDT by Mad Dawg
(Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)