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Various Christian Creeds Down through the Ages
BYUTV ^ | 2000 | John W Welch

Posted on 05/25/2008 4:11:19 AM PDT by restornu


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TOPICS: Apologetics; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: churchhistory; creeds; lds; ldschurch; ldsvideo; mormon
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To: Elsie
What Vipers have done to Christianity and this generation of Vipers carry on!

Once a person receives a witness by the Power of the Holy Ghost they would never want to go back to the Tradition of Men Churches!

61 posted on 05/26/2008 4:42:36 AM PDT by restornu ( Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another. 1 John 11)
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To: kindred

I might spend 3 or 4 hours a day listening to the discussion on the scriptures and re reading the subject for the days discussions and the Spirit of the Lord is there to witness for me!

One will learn things in the OT and NT that is never address by the Tradition of Men and it is being Joy to the soul!

Really it is a lot more because I listen to a lot of talks on the Lord I just can’t get enough it just thrill my soul.

http://www.byu.tv/


62 posted on 05/26/2008 4:50:42 AM PDT by restornu ( Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another. 1 John 11)
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To: Elsie

figures gore suit you!


63 posted on 05/26/2008 4:52:35 AM PDT by restornu ( Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another. 1 John 11)
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To: Elsie

Golly.

I never knew the Mormons were “superior.” At least, not the ones I associate with. There are “others,” of course, who are snobbish, but that’s really not in keeping with the teachings of Christ, so I stay away from them.

We never know what might befall us before the day is over, so we should live each day as if it were our last, “just in case.” That way, we might get an “A” for Effort.

:o])


64 posted on 05/26/2008 6:21:26 AM PDT by Monkey Face ("Science has proof without any certainty. Creationists have certainty without any proof.")
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To: restornu
What Vipers have done to Christianity and this generation of Vipers carry on!

That sounds pretty thin-skinned to me, restornu.

Maybe you should have posted this as an "ecumenic" thread so that you wouldn't have had anyone disputing your opinions.

And, that's all they are, opinions.

65 posted on 05/26/2008 7:36:37 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Protected species legislation enacted May 2008.)
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To: greyfoxx39
What Vipers have done to Christianity and this generation of Vipers carry on!

That sounds pretty thin-skinned to me, restornu.

Maybe you should have posted this as an "ecumenic" thread so that you wouldn't have had anyone disputing your opinions.

Sounds like you are the one with thin skin this is in keeping with the topic!

All Their Creeds Were an Abomination: A Brief Look at Creeds as a Part of the Apostasy

Apostasy came with the help of Vipers by confusing the Word!

66 posted on 05/26/2008 7:48:34 AM PDT by restornu ( Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another. 1 John 11)
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To: restornu; Religion Moderator
Your post included this: this generation of Vipers carry on!

Sounds kind of like you are lamenting the fact that your proselytizing is being disputed on this thread.

Just WHO are the "vipers of this generation" that you are referring to?

May we have a ruling, Mod, on just what would constitute "thin-skinned" in this instance? I will happily leave the thread, should you call me the disruptor.

67 posted on 05/26/2008 8:01:32 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Protected species legislation enacted May 2008.)
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To: restornu
You can distort any thing you like but facts don’t changed!

Facts, LOL, thats right the facts don't change, Smith made up the bom through plagerism of the bible and other books, defrauded millions and put them on the path to destruction. Yep, those facts haven't changed.

68 posted on 05/26/2008 8:02:10 AM PDT by Godzilla (Decaffeinated coffee is like faith without works.)
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To: greyfoxx39; restornu

I’m not ready to call “thin-skin” just yet.


69 posted on 05/26/2008 8:08:29 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Godzilla

Facts, LOL, thats right the facts don’t change, Smith made up the bom through plagerism of the bible and other books, defrauded millions and put them on the path to destruction. Yep, those facts haven’t changed

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Yet what you say does not ring true Godzilla, when there are so many good LDS families and Citizens in the communities...

So who is it that is on the path of destruction it surly isn’t the LDS.


70 posted on 05/26/2008 8:09:18 AM PDT by restornu ( Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another. 1 John 11)
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To: Religion Moderator

OK. That’s a tough definition for me to figure out.


71 posted on 05/26/2008 8:17:00 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Protected species legislation enacted May 2008.)
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To: greyfoxx39

Shouldn’t be. The object of your complaint is the poster of the article.


72 posted on 05/26/2008 8:18:29 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: restornu
Yet what you say does not ring true Godzilla, when there are so many good LDS families and Citizens in the communities...

Good behavior does not equal salvation, lots of "good families" across the world from cultures you would condemn.

So who is it that is on the path of destruction it surly isn’t the LDS.

This is so one dimensional, it is the destruction after this life resty.

73 posted on 05/26/2008 8:18:34 AM PDT by Godzilla (Decaffeinated coffee is like faith without works.)
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To: Godzilla

Yet what you say does not ring true Godzilla, when there are so many good LDS families and Citizens in the communities...
Good behavior does not equal salvation, lots of “good families” across the world from cultures you would condemn.

So who is it that is on the path of destruction it surly isn’t the LDS.

This is so one dimensional, it is the destruction after this life resty.

***

May I asked you gave you the authority to judge others and what they will receive in the hereafter?

How do you know if it is one dimensional?

The LDS I know do every thing in the Name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, and it is through the atonement of Jesus Christ they are enabled to do the will of the Heavenly Father.


74 posted on 05/26/2008 8:25:20 AM PDT by restornu ( Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another. 1 John 11)
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To: restornu; Godzilla
May I asked you gave you the authority to judge others and what they will receive in the hereafter?

Frankly, Godzilla has as much authority to judge others and what they will receive in the hereafter as any mormon, especially Joseph Smith.

No man or woman in this dispensation will ever enter into the celestial kingdom of God without the consent of Joseph Smith.

"From the day that the Priesthood was taken from the earth to the winding up scene of all things, every man and woman must have the certificate of Joseph Smith, junior, as a passport to their entrance into the mansion where God and Christ are"

(Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p. 289).

My CAT has as much authority as Joseph Smith.

75 posted on 05/26/2008 8:43:38 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Protected species legislation enacted May 2008.)
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To: restornu
May I asked you gave you the authority to judge others and what they will receive in the hereafter?

One could ask you the very same question - since mormonism has condemned me. For as long as people are on this side of death, I am authorized to preach the gospel and call all into repentance and to expose false teachings.

The LDS I know do every thing in the Name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, and it is through the atonement of Jesus Christ they are enabled to do the will of the Heavenly Father.

mormons have corrupted the Father from the Eternal, Sole God in all Existence, Never Changing God who is Spirit and to be worshiped in spirit and truth, into a non-eternal, non creator of the universe ex-nihlo, alway changing and who worships other 'gods'.

You have changed the Son from Co-Eternal with the Father, True God from True God into a secondary God,or demiurge, had done the creating.

You have changed the Holy Ghost, Co-Eternal with the Father, of the same and common essence into some divine essence or feeling.

You have changed the Atonement of Jesus Christ, through whom by grace all can be saved by faith in Him and not of works, into a complex system of works, pagan ceremonies and false piety.

Ac 19:15 And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye?

Mt &: 21 ¶ Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

76 posted on 05/26/2008 8:44:27 AM PDT by Godzilla (Decaffeinated coffee is like faith without works.)
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To: Godzilla

sorry I have no clue what you are trying to say!

It is evident you are not sure of the terms you are using!


77 posted on 05/26/2008 9:09:31 AM PDT by restornu ( Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another. 1 John 11)
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To: greyfoxx39; Godzilla

No man or woman in this dispensation will ever enter into the celestial kingdom of God without the consent of Joseph Smith.

“From the day that the Priesthood was taken from the earth to the winding up scene of all things, every man and woman must have the certificate of Joseph Smith, junior, as a passport to their entrance into the mansion where God and Christ are”

(Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p. 289).

My CAT has as much authority as Joseph Smith.

***

Things are done in an orderly manner and if one is not following the Lord’s protocol than what they say is only their personal bias opinion.

In order to speak for the Lord one must have received the Keys to the Kingdom or they have no authority.

You ought to study the transition of the Keys in the Transfiguration in the NT.

In the Latter Days Joseph received those keys and will be along his Brethren in the Day of Judgment serving with other of the council of God at that time!

The final say will be Jesus Christ but others who wore the mantle here on earth of prophet will also have their input.


78 posted on 05/26/2008 9:12:52 AM PDT by restornu ( Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another. 1 John 11)
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To: restornu; All
Funny how quickly folks jump to judge others.

The Gospel has had perverted thoughts added to it as it has moved along. Notice all the differing denominations ...

The only real test is to go back to the original language and stop depending on the interpretations of others. Do we want to be a toy in the hands of another's interpretation of scripture? We do know many thousands of commentaries are written disagreeing with each others conclusions.

No, I do not know how to read or understand Hebrew, or Aramaic. Wish I did. There are some really good studies available in that regard. God is our guide.

There have been many atrocities in the name of religion... (Christianity, the Roman Catholic Church, etc.

consider

Romans 14:10-13!
(10)”You then, why do you judge you brother? Or why do you look down on your brother? For we will all stand before God's judgment seat.
(11) It is written:
“’As surely as I live, says the Lord,
every knee will bow before me;
every tongue shall confess to
God.’”

(12)So then, each of us will give an account of himself to God”
(13)Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in your brother's way.”

Matthew 7:1 NIV

“Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.”

79 posted on 05/26/2008 9:16:05 AM PDT by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: restornu
sorry I have no clue what you are trying to say!

Rom 1: 21 because that, knowing God, they glorified him not as God, neither gave thanks; but became vain in their reasonings, and their senseless heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

It is evident you are not sure of the terms you are using!

If you have no clue, do you now resort to MIND READING?

80 posted on 05/26/2008 9:28:43 AM PDT by Godzilla (Decaffeinated coffee is like faith without works.)
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