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To: brooklyn dave; Between the Lines
And, if the Jewish person wishes to convert, then should Jews of the same brand just turn their backs, or what?

You are aware are you not (both of you) that way back in the 1800s the fellows who founded Reform Judaism in America spent so much time at the task they ended up losing their families to the Lutherans, Methodists and other Protestant groups.

Just one of the ironies of proselytizing among the Orthodox I guess.

You guys did know about that didn't you?

19 posted on 05/19/2008 11:58:15 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

A lot of those Jewish people (mainly from Germany)-—where the Reform Movement was founded anyway(not in America) came here as individual families and really didn’t have a ready made Jewish community to receive them. Now, I can’t say how heavy the pressure to convert was on them. Probably each family or indivdual had their own story. The same thing happened to Irish Catholics who came here before the Revolution and even after—where there weren’t large groups of Irish Catholics. Many became Episcopalian in Colonial days, and many joined some Protestant groups, maybe because of bigotry, maybe because of some expediency, maybe because of intermarriage. If you know your history, the Reform Movement in Germany (middle 1800’s) was to make Jews blend in more with modern society, thus they could partake to a greater extent in society with less bigotry. No German was going to say to a guy in peyes, a full beard, tzitzis, and a caftan “Glad to see ya”. But the Reform Movement to the Orthodox is still anathema.


28 posted on 05/19/2008 12:11:13 PM PDT by brooklyn dave
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