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1 posted on 05/19/2008 11:09:17 AM PDT by Between the Lines
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Maybe the Islamic folks would appreciate the Pope’s words. Look at how they view conversion.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2018188/posts


2 posted on 05/19/2008 11:12:11 AM PDT by ncfool (Savage said that Islam is a Peaceful religion. Your very peaceful after they slit your throat!)
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“The Vatican published in December a doctrinal note reaffirming the mission of all Catholics to pursue conversion of non-Catholics, including other Christian denominations.”

Sorry, Yer Holiness, ya lost me with that one. Christ is our ONLY mediator and advocate. I’m doing fine with my one-on-one relationship with Him.


3 posted on 05/19/2008 11:13:35 AM PDT by jagusafr ("Bugs, Mr. Rico! Zillions of 'em!" - Robert Heinlein)
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"This apostolic commitment is both a duty and an inalienable right, the very expression of religious freedom with its moral, social and political dimensions," the pontiff said.

This is brilliant. Using the idea of religious freedom to assert the right of the Church to proselytize! LOL...sweet.

6 posted on 05/19/2008 11:24:30 AM PDT by Claud
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I still feel it isn’t right to evangelize among Jews-—unless the Jewish person wants to convert.


7 posted on 05/19/2008 11:29:05 AM PDT by brooklyn dave
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Of course, and why would it be any other way?


12 posted on 05/19/2008 11:48:19 AM PDT by PGR88
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It mystifies me as to why liberals consider repugnant the idea of non-violent religious evangelism. How can anyone object to it?

And yet, more often than not, these same liberals are silent in the face of violent (i.e., Mohammedan) evangelism.

20 posted on 05/19/2008 11:58:39 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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The Church’s central mission is evangelism, the pope firmly told a Vatican body responsible for encouraging Catholic missionary activity, according to Agence France-Presse.

In the United States the Catholic Church's central mission is screaming bloody murder every time some poor hapless Protestant sticks a tract under somebody's windshield.

33 posted on 05/19/2008 12:15:13 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Im-bechuqqotay telekhu; ve'et-mitzvotay tishmeru, va`asiytem 'otam.)
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This is even debatable? I mean, are people in the Catholic Church actually wondering about this?


35 posted on 05/19/2008 12:21:17 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (This election is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if McCain wins, were still retarded.)
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Who said they didn’t have the right and why would they listen to them?


38 posted on 05/19/2008 12:28:59 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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>>The Vatican published in December a doctrinal note reaffirming the mission of all Catholics to pursue conversion of non-Catholics, including other Christian denominations.<<

Anyone have a link to this actual document?


50 posted on 05/19/2008 1:28:07 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ironmom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
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Who said, “Off with their heads!”
1. Big Mo (as in MoHAMmed).
2. The Red Queen in Alice In Wonderland.
3. Pol Pot.

Answer: All of the above.

The Pope better watch his six, ‘cause Mad Mo’s followers are on a jihad.


52 posted on 05/19/2008 1:36:58 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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As a Protestant, I have no objection to Roman Catholics attempting to convert Protestants to the faith of Rome, as long as the RC Church has no objection to attempts to convince Catholics to become Protestant.


60 posted on 05/19/2008 2:27:09 PM PDT by quadrant
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The spirit is compromised by the last four words.


73 posted on 05/19/2008 4:47:33 PM PDT by firebrand
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As far as this is concerned, I think St. Francis of Assisi had it right:

Preach the Gospel always; use words when necessary.
76 posted on 05/19/2008 5:08:50 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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WTH? Why does this even need to be said?


78 posted on 05/19/2008 6:48:07 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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What the Pope exhorts his own to do, Rome has historically denied to others. Of course, as according to her interpretation only her interpretation can be right, and all conclusions reached by those without by reasoning from the Scriptures (Acts 17:2, 11) must be fallible (and thus any decision to trust Rome is also), who can argue? An autocracy can do what it wills. But the Almighty “autocrat” took away it’ s secular power to enforce it’s unBiblical doctrines.

If special civil recognition is given to one religious community in the constitutional organization of the State, the right of all citizens and religious communities to religious freedom must be recognized and respected

Religious communities have the right not to be prevented from publicly teaching and bearing witness to their beliefs by the spoken or written word.- Declaration on Religious Freedom, “Dignitatis Humanae,” December 12, 1965

It is insanity to believe that Freedom of Conscience and Freedom of Worship are the inalienable rights of every citizen. From this foul-smelling fountain of Indifferentism flows the erroneous and absurd opinion — or, rather, MADNESS — that freedom of conscience must be asserted and vindicated for everyone. This most pestilential error opens the door to the complete and immoderate liberty of opinions which works such widespread harm both in Church and State. Pope Gregory XVI

In this age of ours, it is no longer expedient that the Catholic religion be the only religion of the State, to the exclusion of all other cults whatsoever. ERROR CONDEMNED by Ven. Pope Pius IX

That it is against the will of the Spirit to burn heretics [at the stake] is condemned as false. Pope Leo X

Even if my own father were a heretic, I would gather the wood to burn him at the stake. Pope Paul IV


One cannot charge with the sin of separation those at present born into communities separated from full communion with the Catholic Church and, in them, brought up in the faith of Christ; and the Catholic Church accepts them with respect and affection as brothers. For, men who believe in Christ and have been properly baptized are put in some, though imperfect, communion with the Catholic Church.

..In certain circumstances, it is allowable, indeed desirable, that Catholics join in prayer with their separated brethren.

The special position of the Eastern churches: These churches though separated from us nevertheless possess true Sacraments, whereby they are still joined to us in closest intimacy. Therefore, some worship in common is not merely possible, but is encouraged. - Decree on Ecumenism, “Unitatis Redintegratio,” Nov. 21, 1964

If any clergyman or layman shall go into the synagogue of the Jews or to the meetings of heretics to join in prayer with them, let them be deposed and deprived of Communion. III Council of Constantinople (Ecumenical)

Is it permitted for Catholics to be present at, or take part in, conventions, gatherings, meetings, or societies of non-Catholics which aim to associate together under a single agreement all who in any way lay claim to the name of Christian? In the negative! It is clear, therefore, why this Apostolic See has never allowed its subjects to take part in the assemblies of non-Catholics. There is only one way in which the unity of Christians may be fostered, and that is by furthering the return to the one true Church of Christ of those who are separated from her. Pope Pius XI


(1 Cor 5:12-13) “For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? {13} But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.”

(Eph 6:12) “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.”

(2 Cor 10:3) “For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh:”

(Acts 17:2) “And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,”

(2 Cor 4:2) “But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man’s conscience in the sight of God.”


80 posted on 05/20/2008 6:28:26 AM PDT by daniel1212
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