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Unmasking the Pope and the Catholic System (Open)
Grace To You ^ | Exact date unknown | John F. MacArthur

Posted on 05/17/2008 6:30:09 PM PDT by e.Shubee

John F. MacArthur is no ordinary evangelical. I think that there is something special about him because of the unusual excellence of his book  The Gospel According to Jesus. I consider that book to be the finest exposition on the gospel ever written.

The most surprising thing about John MacArthur is his wide acceptance, given that he believes in the true gospel and takes a strong stand on the historic Protestant understanding of Roman Catholicism. Consider his protestant message, Unmasking the Pope and the Catholic System, delivered shortly after the death of Pope John Paul II, and see if you can either respect or refute his statements.

http://www.bereanbeacon.org/audio_video/UnmaskingThePope.mp3


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Evangelical Christian; History
KEYWORDS: catholicism; christians; johnmacarthur; pope
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To: wagglebee; annalex
I can say without hesitation that I have NEVER seen ANY Catholic even suggest that Protestants would be denied Eternal Live in Heaven.

You should have hestitated. Ask annalex - he just posted this last week:

"You are hell bound, generally speaking, yes, by the fact of your being separated brethren...."

281 posted on 05/22/2008 1:40:23 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?" -- Galatians 4:16)
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To: Alamo-Girl
The feature was that his eyebrows would meet over the ridge of his nose.

LOLOL! So the AntiChrist will sport a unibrow, eh?

282 posted on 05/22/2008 1:41:16 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?" -- Galatians 4:16)
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To: Alex Murphy

If the question is, are Protestants Christian then the answer is yes. Are they in danger of Hell? Yes. Are Catholics in danger of Hell? Yes. Is Protestantism endangering souls? Hell, yes.


283 posted on 05/22/2008 3:00:44 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: Fichori

“MacArthur never claims that the pope is the Final Antichrist, but that there are many Antichrists, and that by his actions, the pope exhibits some of the marks of an Antichrist.”

Alrighty then, that’s reassuring. For a second I thought that only the entire Catholic Church is the spawn of Satan. Good to know that the Pope only “exhibits some of the marks of the Antichrist.”

I swear the KKK is not dead. It’s seed continues to bear “its” fruit. And it has a very distinctive flavor.


284 posted on 05/22/2008 3:03:23 PM PDT by romanesq
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To: romanesq
Alrighty then, that’s reassuring. For a second I thought that only the entire Catholic Church is the spawn of Satan. Good to know that the Pope only “exhibits some of the marks of the Antichrist.”

MacArthur says plenty to 'prove' the pope as 'the' anti-christ. He then goes on about 'the devils doctrine' , the media and the Catholic Church being of satan, etc.

I'd go back and listen for a quote but the last time, I threw up a little in my mouth.

285 posted on 05/22/2008 3:18:48 PM PDT by DaveMSmith
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To: narses; Religion Moderator
Sorry, this isn’t an issue of being “thin skinned”, it is an issue of outright hatefilled lies pummeling Catholics day after day by posters who do little else. Is this really what the “Free Republic” is all about?

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The proof is in the pudding. Your very objection is worse than any hate-filled lies one may find here on a daily basis.

I've simply chosen to stay away.

287 posted on 05/22/2008 3:30:16 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Alex Murphy

LOL. Hide those Hillary buttons, Alex, and stop holding Huma’s hand. People are starting to talk.


288 posted on 05/22/2008 4:21:58 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: DaveMSmith

“MacArthur says plenty to ‘prove’ the pope as ‘the’ anti-christ. He then goes on about ‘the devils doctrine’ , the media and the Catholic Church being of satan, etc.

I’d go back and listen for a quote but the last time, I threw up a little in my mouth.”

If MacArthur was with you, he’d say that you are puking up your Catholic Satanism.

This guy is doing his darndest to take the mantle from that Hagee fraud.
Satan works through the false prophets in mysterious ways. And for those less dense, not nearly as mysterious. LOL


289 posted on 05/22/2008 4:28:26 PM PDT by romanesq
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To: trisham

I am trying to understand your statement, but I find it difficult to fathom how an objection can be worse than hate-filled lies. Can you clarify your reasoning please?


290 posted on 05/22/2008 5:06:56 PM PDT by Huber (And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. - John 1:5)
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To: Ransomed; Fichori
Five'll getcha ten that we see a rash of new "Sola Scriptura is a Protestant invention", "Protestant pastor arrested for child molestation", and "Former Presbyterian bows to Mary" threads from the usual suspects in the next day or so.

And here we go....

Sexual Abuses Issues in the Church; Raising the Bar

291 posted on 05/22/2008 5:11:40 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?" -- Galatians 4:16)
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To: sandyeggo

I shall download it and study it tomorrow.


293 posted on 05/22/2008 5:45:04 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: sandyeggo; trisham; narses; Petronski; rogator; Antoninus
WAR, WAR to the knife with her! (Rome) PEACE there cannot be! She cannot have peace with us and we cannot have peace with her. She hates the true church and we can only say the hatred is reciprocal. We would not lay a hand upon her priests; We would not touch a hair of their heads; Let them be free. But their doctrine we would destroy from the face of the earth as the doctrine of devils. So let it perish O God and let that evil thing become as the fat of lambs. Into smoke let it consume: yea into smoke let it consume away.

If I didn't know the source of this, my ONLY thought would be that it was preached in a mosque. If this isn't hate speech, I don't know what is.

295 posted on 05/22/2008 5:52:33 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Fichori

The book I mentioned in post 270 does a very credible job explaining why one should not consider the RCC as antiChrist, as antiChrist specifically denies Christ has come in the flesh. The RCC doesn’t do that. I agree that the Scripture doesn’t seem to support one AntiChrist; and I am convinced more and more that AntiChrist is not the beast or false prophet. The office of pope can fulfill that of false prophet, it appears.

Now, further, antiChrist is within the churches, deceiving many of weak and false faith. Contrasted with the beast of Revelation, which wages war on the churches from without. This, the author surmises, is more likely those governments that set up their rulers as God. Several have done so over the years - during “the last days” in which we live.


296 posted on 05/22/2008 5:57:53 PM PDT by Manfred the Wonder Dawg (Test ALL things, hold to that which is True.)
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg

All very interesting.

Weather the RCC is the Antichrist or not, it doesn’t really take away from their platform and their history.

Antichrist aside, MacArthur’s message has a lot of good points and quotes.
(which is why I’m transcribing it)

There is a saying, eat the meat and spit out the bones.

And there is a lot of good meet in MacArthur’s message.(and possibly a few bones.)


297 posted on 05/22/2008 6:10:17 PM PDT by Fichori (Official Tarbaby of the RF)
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To: e.Shubee

The Catholic Caucus has placed this thread on ignore. If you are Catholic, be aware that this thread contains slanders about the Catholic Church. In the interest of not rewarding anti-Catholic bigots or engaging the invincibly ignorant in futile debate, we ask that you do not respond to any of the lies about the Catholic Church contained herein.


298 posted on 05/22/2008 6:55:05 PM PDT by Elvina
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To: All; Religion Moderator; narses
***The Catholic Caucus has placed this thread on ignore. If you are Catholic, be aware that this thread contains slanders about the Catholic Church. In the interest of not rewarding anti-Catholic bigots or engaging the invincibly ignorant in futile debate, we ask that you do not respond to any of the lies about the Catholic Church contained herein.***

P.S. I did click on the source. My PC responded with this message: "To help protect your security, Internet Explorer blocked this site from downloading files to your computer."

I don't know whether IE blocked it because the site has been flagged as a hate site, or because IE sees potential virus damage in the MP3. Either way, I am not going to risk my PC for some foolish 90-minute anti-Catholic diatribe.

299 posted on 05/22/2008 8:14:20 PM PDT by Dajjal
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To: Dajjal; Religion Moderator

An amateur transcript of the MP3 will hopefully be forthcoming.
(its in the works.)


300 posted on 05/22/2008 8:25:49 PM PDT by Fichori (Official Tarbaby of the RF)
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