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Ah, ah, ah! There you go again, Sister in Christ, second guessing my motivation again....Hmmmm.
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This is the actual post to you. Post 169.

>>To: Dr. Eckleburg

>>For the Son of man became man so that we might become God. The only begotten Son of God, wanting to make us sharers in his divinity, assumed our nature, so that he, made man, might make men gods<<

Unless you can provide a link to the Catechism of the Catholic Church and not not the “Let Us Reason” website (which is all that came up on this quote) I would say it’s a lie.

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22For+the+Son+of+man+became+man+so+that+we+might+become+God.+The+only+begotten+Son+of+God%2C+wanting+to+make+us+sharers+in+his+divinity%2C+assumed+our+nature%2C+so+that+he%2C+made+man%2C+might+make+men+gods&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1

The string I used is there in the link, so no FReeper can find any “motivation” in it.
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And let’s get this straight, you did NOT post VERBATIM from the Catechism. If you had, there would have been NUMBERS for footnotes. As you can see from your original post, My Sister in Christ, you did not post from the CCC because there are no numbers. SEE? Post 140

To: AnalogReigns; netmilsmom; Alex Murphy; Lord_Calvinus; Gamecock; OLD REGGIE; Uncle Chip; ...
Perhaps the answer is found in the RCC catechism itself...

“For the Son of man became man so that we might become God. The only begotten Son of God, wanting to make us sharers in his divinity, assumed our nature, so that he, made man, might make men gods.” (page 116, #460)
That right there tells us pretty much all we need to know about Rome. Rome believes the church turns men into gods by infusing righteousness into them and turning them into perfect creatures. Voila! A god.

Therefore perhaps it’s not such a stretch to believe Mary was “sinless” and Mary is the “co-redeemer” and a “pope is infallible” and a priest is “another Christ.”

Whereas the Bible instructs and the Reformation restated that all men are fallen and the only thing that saves anyone is Christ’s righteousness mercifully imputed to the believer by grace through faith.

So it’s probably easy for Rome to curse Protestants because Protestants are outside the RCC and do not believe they become a god in any way. Christ indwells us, but He remains always Christ and we remain always the creature, 100% guilty but 100% acquitted of our sins by Christ’s rightousness through His atoning work on the cross.

Our differences really seem profound some days.

140 posted on Friday, May 16, 2008 8:19:04 PM by Dr. Eckleburg
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Sorry, you did not post anything verbatim until you ACTUALLY went to the CCC and reposted. See your post 387,

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~~”For the Son of man became man so that we might become God. The only begotten Son of God, wanting to make us sharers in his divinity, assumed our nature, so that he, made man, might make men gods” (Catechism of the Roman Catholic religion #460)~~
Unless you can provide a link to the Catechism of the Catholic Church and not not the “Let Us Reason” website (which is all that came up on this quote) I would say it’s a lie.

Now that is really fascinating. I am thrilled you are skeptical of that paragraph from your church’s catechism. It is dreadful, isn’t it?

But as you can see from subsequent Catholic posters’ comments, that is indeed Catholic dogma from the catechism.

And FYI, I did not post from the thread you linked to. I didn’t need to. You simply go to Google and insert a phrase or a number along with “catechism of the catholic religion” and you come up with sites such as this one straight from the Vatican which is the one I used...

Catechism of the Catholic Faith
(#460)

“460 The Word became flesh to make us “partakers of the divine nature”:78 “For this is why the Word became man, and the Son of God became the Son of man: so that man, by entering into communion with the Word and thus receiving divine sonship, might become a son of God.”79 “For the Son of God became man so that we might become God.”80 “The only-begotten Son of God, wanting to make us sharers in his divinity, assumed our nature, so that he, made man, might make men gods.81”

See the numbers? THAT is the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

So I’ll let others see for themselves....

This is really getting ridiculous. I posted verbatim from the catechism. In post 387, I included the footnotes.

I didn't include the footnotes in the earlier post for the same reason I usually do not include the footnotes when I'm posting from the Westminster Confession of Faith -- it makes the excerpt shorter and clearer to read. As I usually do with excerpts from the WCF, I went to the extra effort of deleting the footnote numbers so the excerpt isn't cluttered with numbers that I'm not referencing. I'm referencing the words verbatim.

If I had misquoted the catechism, you'd have a point. But I didn't misquote anything. #460 has now been posted several times and it's still an affront to the Triune God.

And NONE of this has anything to do with the fact that you disbelieved the exact words from the catechism were indeed FROM the catechism. As you wrote...

"Unless you can provide a link to the Catechism of the Catholic Church and not not the "Let Us Reason" website (which is all that came up on this quote) I would say it's a lie."

A lie? Those words were a lie? Why was that?

Did those words ring untrue to you? Did those words appear unScriptural to you? Did it seem like those words were written by gnostics and not by a Christian?

Me, too.