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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Oh great, an article by a Baptist (Spurgeon) referring to an Anglican (Pusey) selectively quoting on what Catholics believe. So much more reliable than listening to the Catholics themselves. (So, Mr. Hitler, do the Jews really drink the blood of German babies?) When someone states a falsehood through ignorance it is a mistake; when he does so after being repeatedly corrected it is a lie. For you to claim, despite numerous corrections, that Catholics worship Mary IS A LIE!

As to the article itself, you will note that nowhere, contrary to its title, is there a statement by a Catholic that he worships Mary. For Catholics the act of worship is the holy sacrifice of the Mass. If you were to study the Mass you would find that it is addressed to the Father. Even in Masses on feasts of Mary the prayers are all addressed to God, not Mary. As an example, here is the Opening Prayer of the Feast of the Immaculate Conception:

FATHER, you prepared the Virgin Mary to be the worthy mother of your Son. You let her share beforehand in the salvation Christ would bring by his death, and kept her sinless form the first moment of her conception. Help us by her prayers to live in your presence without sin. We ask this THROUGH OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, YOUR SON, who lives and reigns with you and the Holy Spirit, one God, for ever and ever.
Not a single word addressed to Mary. (Please do not quote other prayers from outside the Mass that are addressed to Mary, these are not acts of worship; only the Mass is.) Time and again the distinctions between latria (worship) and dulia (veneration) have been explained to you. There are enough real disputes between Catholics and Protestants that you do not need to invent false ones. In Catholic Bibles "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor" is listed as one of the Commandments. Is it in yours?
104 posted on 05/15/2008 7:16:16 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius

***Oh great, an article by a Baptist (Spurgeon) referring to an Anglican (Pusey) selectively quoting on what Catholics believe. So much more reliable than listening to the Catholics themselves. (So, Mr. Hitler, do the Jews really drink the blood of German babies?)***

Do you honestly think that Baptists are like Nazis for comparrison? Sad, really. I feel sorry for you.


190 posted on 05/15/2008 9:55:44 AM PDT by Lord_Calvinus
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To: Petrosius; Dr. Eckleburg
Time and again the distinctions between latria (worship) and dulia (veneration) have been explained to you.

Did you forget Hyperdulia?
389 posted on 05/15/2008 4:13:47 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
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