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Religion Forum Guidelines – Ecumenism
May 14, 2008 | Religion Moderator

Posted on 05/14/2008 9:06:42 AM PDT by Religion Moderator

In late April, markomalley and gamecock made a trial run at a “respectful dialog” category for threads on the Religion Forum. The trial failed due to the inability of the posters to agree on what is or is not “respectful.” Then in early May, several other posters appealed for the elimination of posts which seek to tear down other poster’s beliefs (iconoclasm.)

Meanwhile, the situation on the Religion Forum has been exacerbated by posters on the News/Activism forum inadvertently being exposed to religious debate as a result of choosing the “everything” option on browse instead of the “News/Activism” option.

If you are offended that conservatives have serious religious disagreements, do not use the “everything” browse option. If you are new to the Religion Forum, click on my profile page for guidelines.

In response to the pleas for a “respectful dialog” and/or the elimination of “iconoclasm” (attacks on other people’s beliefs) – I’m opening the floor for trial postings of a new type of semi-open thread which we shall call “ecumenic.”

Unlike the caucus threads, any poster could reply to an ecumenic thread. And the article on which an ecumenic thread is based could include contrasts and challenges of other beliefs. However, on the ecumenic thread, the poster must not argue against any other beliefs. He can only argue for what he believes – or ask questions.

While we test this new type of thread, be sure to tag every article so that posters will know when to avoid a thread. The tags during this trial run are “prayer” “devotional” “caucus” “ecumenic” or “open.”

Prayer threads are closed to debate of any kind.

Devotional threads are closed to debate of any kind.

Caucus threads are closed to any poster who is not a member of the caucus. If it says “Catholic Caucus” and you are not Catholic, do not post to the thread. However, if the poster of the caucus welcomes you, I will not boot you from the thread.

Ecumenic threads in this trial run are closed to all “anti” arguments. Posters who try to tear down other’s beliefs – or use subterfuge to accomplish the same goal – are the disrupters on ecumenic threads and will be booted from the thread and/or suspended.

Open threads are a town square – posters may argue for or against beliefs of any kind. They may tear down other's beliefs. They may ridicule, similar to the Smoky Backroom with the exception that a poster must never “make it personal.” Reading minds and attributing motives are forms of “making it personal.” Thin-skinned posters will be booted from “open” threads because in the town square, they are the disrupters.

When you see a post which is inappropriate for an ecumenic thread, ping me. Do not bother the Admin Moderators with an abuse report unless the situation requires immediate attention.


TOPICS: Ecumenism
KEYWORDS: faq
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To: Quix

We shall see.


421 posted on 05/14/2008 2:59:45 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: greyfoxx39

BTW, I don’t really have any complaints about our regular RM.

it’s the pinch hitters that I think are most given to DOUBLE STANDARDS.


422 posted on 05/14/2008 3:00:30 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix

what?


423 posted on 05/14/2008 3:01:37 PM PDT by ChurtleDawg (voting only encourages them)
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To: sandyeggo; Alex Murphy; Gamecock; HarleyD; Forest Keeper; wmfights; blue-duncan; xzins; ...

Not so.

Careful attention to whinings by certain folks and then

watching the sequences of things that follow . . .

who’s posts are most pulled and who’s not etc.

many things can be inferred however accurately or inaccurately.


424 posted on 05/14/2008 3:01:42 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: netmilsmom

“Can someone post a “Catholics are idol worshipers” (caucus) thread?”

Ooooh! Ooooooh! If someone can - let it be me! /sarc


425 posted on 05/14/2008 3:03:02 PM PDT by Manfred the Wonder Dawg (Test ALL things, hold to that which is True.)
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To: P-Marlowe
Actually I find the best use for that button is when you post something really stupid and you don't want anyone to see it, you push the abuse button and beg the Moderator to make that post disappear. Hopefully it will disappear before anyone has a chance to archive it.

That's an abuse of the Abuse Button. For those situations you need to use the Self-Abuse Button.

[Oh No!!! Where is that Self-Abuse Button when you really need it???]

426 posted on 05/14/2008 3:03:07 PM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Gamecock

It’s not the Mormons, Calvinists or Methodists. Seeing how the same Catholics show up on these perceived anti-Catholic threads, it’s pretty easy to narrow it down to 5-8 folks

= = =

INDEED . . . TIME AFTER TIME AFTER TIME AFTER TIME AFTER TIME AFTER TIME AFTER TIME AFTER TIME

with endless loop whining and wailing to boot.

All with dripping self-righteousness and appeals to all that’s !!!!TRADITIONAL!!!! and ‘sanctified’ by the political ruling elite power-mongers in Rome. Sheesh.


427 posted on 05/14/2008 3:03:58 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix

I HEAR you!


428 posted on 05/14/2008 3:04:53 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Plea to mormon FReepers, "DONT HOSE ME, BRO!")
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To: Religion Moderator; Quix
RM, just as question:

Is this true:

Alas, it’s been long clear that the RC’s throw so much dust in the air, that either the mods get weary or so bothered by their whining and abuse button sitting that those the whiners are whining about are called down instead of the whiners.

429 posted on 05/14/2008 3:05:05 PM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: Rick.Donaldson

I very fiercely agree with you.

Thanks.


430 posted on 05/14/2008 3:05:26 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: P-Marlowe
If we are going to have caucus threads, then let the members of that caucus speak freely.

In a private (not visible to the public) caucus thread, sure.

Otherwise, let me start a thread based on tomorrow's Mass readings and in post two start a discussion fileting the Scriptural errors of Luther and Cauvin.

See the flaw in your suggestion?

431 posted on 05/14/2008 3:05:42 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: ChurtleDawg

As usual . . .

depends on one’s definitions . . .

here . . . of “Orthodox.”


432 posted on 05/14/2008 3:06:13 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix

You make me laff..


433 posted on 05/14/2008 3:06:54 PM PDT by Manfred the Wonder Dawg (Test ALL things, hold to that which is True.)
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To: Religion Moderator

The “open” threads will still be there so you can “fight it out.” The difference is that thin-skinned posters will be booted from the “open” threads - just like “anti” posters will be booted from the “ecumenic” threads.

= = =

THIS CHANGE ALONE

Should make your job easier and the boundaries clearer

and the fun more evenhanded and manageable.

HALLELUJAH!

PRAISE GOD!

PROGRESS!


434 posted on 05/14/2008 3:07:20 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Uncle Chip

But we do know who is always pinging the Religion Moderator and whining and complaining about what is being said that they are unable to reasonably dispute. Those are a matter of record.

= = =

Quite true.

I don’t know their names . . . but their initials are . . .

LOL.


435 posted on 05/14/2008 3:08:10 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: marshmallow

Ah well

paradox and irony

are rife throughout Scripture.

LOL.


436 posted on 05/14/2008 3:09:06 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Religion Moderator

I agree.

I think ANTI-

is a much clearer and easier to enforce boundary.

We shall see.


437 posted on 05/14/2008 3:10:15 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: 1000 silverlings

I don’t think anti is that fuzzy.


438 posted on 05/14/2008 3:10:55 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Judith Anne
When a lot of complaints are filed against the same poster, it is noticed. When it's the same posters filing compliants against the same posters, it is noticed. And when a poster uses the abuse report demanding that posts be removed instead of making his/her case on thread, it is noticed.

All things considered, it is best not to end up on the moderator's radar at all.

The moderators are as "fair and balanced" as they can possibly be considering the size of this forum.

I must head out now, but will check back in later.

439 posted on 05/14/2008 3:11:50 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Gamecock

I think the RM has been anointed in his fairness.

and exceedingly fair beyond any such experience in my 61 years.


440 posted on 05/14/2008 3:12:33 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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