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Prayers in school?

Posted on 05/13/2008 4:32:39 PM PDT by teacher12

Hey.. how do you folks feel about prayers in public schools? It's a controversial issue so just wanted to hear what you guys have to say on the matter. In favor/opposed and reasons.


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1 posted on 05/13/2008 4:32:39 PM PDT by teacher12
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To: teacher12

I am all for it, as long as I can write the prayer.


2 posted on 05/13/2008 4:37:23 PM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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To: teacher12

I think there’s nothing stopping an individual from praying in school. I think organized or teacher led prayer in public school should not be allowed.


3 posted on 05/13/2008 4:37:42 PM PDT by Huck ("Real" conservatives support OBAMA in 08 (that's how you know Im not a real conservative))
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To: teacher12
Personally, each time I step foot on campus I pray that I don't get gunned downed by some nutjob while my .40 is in my car because even though I am licensed to carry it, I will go to jail if I get caught with it on campus.

As a side note, you should pray that the kitties don't get you.

4 posted on 05/13/2008 4:38:30 PM PDT by txroadkill (Liberals believe that the only oppressed people in Cuba are the terrorist in GitMo)
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To: teacher12

There is nothing stopping an individual or group of individuals from praying. And as long as there are tests, I assure you that there will be prayers.

BTW, welcome to FR


5 posted on 05/13/2008 4:39:32 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: teacher12

If a child wishes to pray on his own (or with other children) that’s fine...but the faculty shouldn’t be leading prayers.


6 posted on 05/13/2008 4:39:46 PM PDT by rosenfan
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Welcome to Free Republic
7 posted on 05/13/2008 4:40:47 PM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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Yup 5 times a day facing Mecca.


8 posted on 05/13/2008 4:41:09 PM PDT by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: teacher12

As long as there are math quizzes, there will be prayer in school.


9 posted on 05/13/2008 4:41:39 PM PDT by irishtenor (Check out my blog at http://boompa53.blogspot.com/)
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To: rosenfan

Agreed. People should choose religion of their own free will.


10 posted on 05/13/2008 4:42:54 PM PDT by JZelle
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To: Huck
I think there’s nothing stopping an individual from praying in school. I think organized or teacher led prayer in public school should not be allowed.

My sentiments exactly.

11 posted on 05/13/2008 4:42:56 PM PDT by dbwz (kthxbai)
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I think it should be allowed. It’s not a religious issue. It’s a speech issue.


12 posted on 05/13/2008 4:43:59 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: teacher12
Welcome to FR.

I - - Me; an individual; a committee of one.

Pledge - - Dedicate all of my worldly goods to give without self-pity.

Allegiance - - My love and my devotion.

To the Flag - - Our standard; Old Glory ; a symbol of Freedom; wherever she waves there is respect, because your loyalty has given her a dignity that shouts, Freedom is everybody's job.

United - - That means that we have all come together.

States - - Individual communities that have united into forty-eight great states. Forty-eight individual communities with pride and dignity and purpose. All divided with imaginary boundaries, yet united to a common purpose, and that is love for country.

And to the Republic - - Republic--a state in which sovereign power is invested in representatives chosen by the people to govern. And government is the people; and it's from the people to the leaders, not from the leaders to the people.

For which it stands

One Nation - - One Nation--meaning, so blessed by God.

Indivisible - - Incapable of being divided.

With Liberty - - Which is Freedom; the right of power to live one's own life, without threats, fear, or some sort of retaliation.

And Justice - - The principle, or qualities, of dealing fairly with others.

For All - - For All--which means, boys and girls, it's as much your country as it is mine.

And now, boys and girls, let me hear you recite the Pledge of Allegiance:

I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic, for which it stands; one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Since I was a small boy, two states have been added to our country, and two words have been added to the Pledge of Allegiance: Under God. Wouldn't it be a pity if someone said that is a prayer, and that would be eliminated from schools, too?

Red Skelton

13 posted on 05/13/2008 4:45:45 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served,to keep us free)
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To: teacher12
The current consensus is that as long as it is student-led and does not cut into any "instructional time" then it is a green light.

I have mixed feelings. As a Christian, I am all for it and wish that it would not be outlawed and nullified by the supreme court. On the other hand, however, should another religion become more prominent than Christianity (say, like Islam in the EU), I would not want to have to be subject to their kowtow-ing and jihadist rantings. I know, it is slightly biased, but as long as Christianity remains dominant, then okay. But as soon as another religion becomes more prevalent and tries to impose its beliefs on me, then I draw the line.

I suppose, then, a viable solution might be to have set times for each individual to devote to their own personal faith or to general meditation if they do not subscribe to a religion. Then EVERYONE gets what they want.

14 posted on 05/13/2008 4:46:03 PM PDT by BloodOrFreedom
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Thanks for the welcome! It's kind of a weird area for me - I'm a traditional Christian but as a teacher the principle of religious neutrality has to take precedence (obviously if I ever said that in public there would be hearings I guess! Perhaps an exaggeration). What someone said about bringing his .40 on to campus, the one thing I gotta object to when this comes up is the students.. I don't know what is being proposed and I for one would NOT feel right knowing teenagers could be carrying in school.
15 posted on 05/13/2008 4:47:39 PM PDT by teacher12
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I am a government worker. This is not replying to prayers in school but prayers at a Federal Facility. We had these contractor training instructors come to our facility and at the end of our glass, they went into a lecture on the Bible and had us join in prayer. I thought it was inappropriate. We were not paying them so they could teach us the Bible - they were supposed to teach us navy logistics. When they were told they could no longer come to our facility and pray, they decided to come no longer and have the course at a hotel.


16 posted on 05/13/2008 4:48:30 PM PDT by merry10
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To: BloodOrFreedom
I suppose, then, a viable solution might be to have set times for each individual to devote to their own personal faith or to general meditation if they do not subscribe to a religion.

That would seem to me to be a waste of valuable time. There's too much non-academic subject matter in public schools as it is, and time spent in prayer/meditation/zoning out is time that could be better spent learning.

17 posted on 05/13/2008 4:51:07 PM PDT by rosenfan
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To: rosenfan
That would seem to me to be a waste of valuable time. There's too much non-academic subject matter in public schools as it is, and time spent in prayer/meditation/zoning out is time that could be better spent learning.

If you recall, a couple of decades ago in public schools, every day was opened with the Pledge, a prayer, and Bible reading.

18 posted on 05/13/2008 4:54:14 PM PDT by BloodOrFreedom
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To: AppyPappy

[It’s a speech issue.]

Thats a dodge. It is indeed a religious issue and itis protected Constitutional liberty to pray in schools, though I would only pray to the one true creator God of Israel and His only begotten Son, Jesus Christ my Lord and Saviour. If some one chose to pray to their god, then that is allowed also, though I believe their gods are idols.
I am for prayer in public schools and believe that the schools are suffering because they deny the blessing of the Lord God by Jesus Christ.


19 posted on 05/13/2008 4:54:34 PM PDT by kindred (I am now a third party conservative, GOP be damned.)
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To: teacher12

The only time the ACLU doesn’t complain about school prayer is after a shool shooting.

I wonder why.


20 posted on 05/13/2008 4:55:04 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (Conservatives are to McCain what Charlie Brown is to Lucy.)
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