JESUS THE CHRIST - EARTHLY ADVENT OF THE CHRIST PREDICTED. - CHAPTER 5 (LDS)

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[P-Marlowe]

do you have links to those comments

Here's one.

GRIG: Recently some of us have decided to take a more proactive approach. Rather than try to wrestle the pig into taking a bath, we are just going to hose it down. We will actively define our faith here rather than just respond to accusations.

[Revelation 911]

Who cares WHAT kind of penguins they are??

hes talking about the actor.....mitch pileggi

[Revelation 911]

Most posting have been following my journey from bishopric member to "heretic" and "apostate" after my discovery of the "hidden" teachings, sins and crimes of Brigham Young and Joseph Smith.

I was not, my prayers are with you - and may God bless you and your children

[Revelation 911]

Prophecy Old Testament (Torah & Haphtarah) New Testament Fulfilled
1. Messiah’s pre-existence. Micah 5:2 John 1:1, 1:14
2. To be from the seed of a woman. Genesis 3:15 Matthew 1:18
3. To be from the seed of Abraham. Genesis 12:3 Matthew 1:1-16
4. To be from the seed of David. Isaiah 11:10 Matthew 1:1
5. Abraham’s descendant would bless all nations. Genesis 12:3; 18:18 Matthew 1:2
6. To be from the tribe of Judah. Genesis 49:10 Matthew 1:1-3
7. To be a prophet like Moses. Deuteronomy 18:15,19 John 5:45-47
8. To be the Son of God. Isaiah 9:6-7 Luke 1:32
9. To be called Lord Jeremiah 23:5-6 John 13:13
10. To be called Mighty God Isaiah 9:6 Matthew 1:23
11. To be God within a man Zechariah 12:10-11 John 10:30
12. To be presented with gifts. Psalm 72:10 Matthew 2:10
13. To die before the 2nd Temple is destroyed. Daniel 9:24-27 Temple destroyed in 70 A.D.; Jesus killed between 30-33 A.D.
14. To enter Jerusalem between 30-33 A.D. Daniel 9:24-27 Jesus enters Jerusalem between 30-33 A.D.
15. To be born in Bethlehem. Micah 5:2 Luke 2:4-2:7
16. To perform miracles. Isaiah 35:5-6 Matthew 11:4-6
17. To enter Jerusalem on a donkey. Zechariah 9:9 Matthew 21:6-9
18. To enter Jerusalem as a King. Zechariah 9:9 Matthew 21:5
19. To suffer. Isaiah 53:10-11 Mark 15:34-37
20. To bring salvation. Isaiah 59:16-20 Luke 19:10
21. When God establishes His new covenant, Israel will come to know the Lord; not just His laws. Jeremiah 31:31-34 Matthew 11:29-30
22. To be raised from the dead. Psalm 16:10, Isaiah 53:10 Mark 16:9-10
23. To sit at the right hand of God. Psalm 110:1 Mark 16:19
24. To be a priest forever. Psalm 110:4 Hebrews 5:5-6
25. To be an intercessor between man and God. Isaiah 59:16 Matthew 10:32
26. To be called wonderful counselor Isaiah 9:5-6 Luke 4:22
27. To be called everlasting father. Isaiah 9:5-6 Matthew 1:23
28. To be called prince of peace. Isaiah 9:5-6 John 16:33
29. To be a guide to Jews and Gentiles. Isaiah 42:1; Isaiah 49:1-8 Luke 2:32
30. To be accepted by Gentiles. Isaiah 11:10 Acts 13:47-48
31. To be preceded by a messenger. Isaiah 40:3 Matthew 11:10-11
32. To bring light to Galilee. Isaiah 9:1-2 Matthew 4:15
33. Would be rejected. Isaiah 53:3; Daniel 9:24-26 John 1:11
34. Would be tried and condemned. Isaiah 53:8 Acts 8:31-35
35. Would be pierced. Isaiah 53:5 John 20:25
36. Would be wounded. Isaiah 53:5 John 19:17-18
37. Would be considered a criminal. Isaiah 53:12 Luke 22:37
38. Would pray for criminals. Isaiah 53:12 Luke 23:34 (in reference to the soldiers)
39. Would have no broken bones. Psalm 34:20/21, Exodus 12:46, Numbers 9:12) John 19:33
40. Would be silent before His accusers. Isaiah 53:7 Matthew 27:14
41. Would be buried in a rich man’s tomb. Isaiah 53:9 Matthew 27:57-60
42. Would heal the blind. Isaiah 61:1-2 John 9:25-38
43. Would preach to the poor. Isaiah 61:1-2 Matthew 11:5
44. Would die for the sins of Israel & the World. Isaiah 53:5-6 Matthew 20:28
45. Israel would see, but not see; hear, but not hear. Isaiah 6:9-10 Matthew 13:13-15
46. His message would spread world-wide. Isaiah 49:6 Acts 15:15-18
47. Would be a priest after the order of Melchizedek. Psalm 110:4 Hebrews 5:10
48. Darkness would fall over Israel at 12:00 P.M. on a day where the Lord would have Israel mourn for an only Son. Amos 8:9-10 Matthew 27:45

[Revelation 911]

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wow that took 20 min -

wave to the mods marlowe

[FastCoyote]

FC:I am just an ignorant pig to be hosed off. Or in the words of one of your special status buddies, “a butthole”.

REV:do you have links to those comments?

Sure, though with OldMountainMan I may not have the first reference nor the most egregious, there was a stream on conscious thing going on there:

Texas LDS deal with confusion
Wednesday, April 23, 2008 9:07:47 AM · 264 of 348
Old Mountain man to dmw
What’s your problem, truth hurts? Are you one of the mainstream moron buttholes to whom I was referring?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2004714/posts?q=1&;page=251

As regards hosing down the pigs:
sevenbak
[Why the moderators here don’t see the behavior of these anti-Mormon activists as religion bashing is a mystery to us, but it is the moderators call to make and we respect their right to do so. That doesn’t mean we have to be passive however. We have all spent many hours refuting the accusations leveled at our faith, but these wind up buried deep in a flood of comments, effectively shouting us down.

Recently some of us have decided to take a more proactive approach. Rather than try to wrestle the pig into taking a bath, we are just going to hose it down. We will actively define our faith here rather than just respond to accusations. ]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2013341/posts

We’ve gotten tired of cataloguing the names we’ve been called. “Fast Coyote - you deserve a special place in hell” was one of my favorite epithets. By the way, these aren’t necessarily the most egregious examples - this protected status has been in place for quite a while leading to some nasty postings which would get our side banned if we posted them.

[Revelation 911]

thanks

[P-Marlowe]

There were more than 1300 posts on that thread. It was the "Why so many LDS threads?" Thread. If that statement was enough to get the thread pulled, then why wasn't it pulled a week ago when that statement was first made?

I had a thread pulled after about 15 posts at 3:AM because I was supposedly "baiting Mormons" by posting about The Hollow Earth Theory. It is cached here.

You can pull 'em but you can't hide 'em.

[LeGrande]

1. Messiah’s pre-existence. Micah 5:2 John 1:1, 1:14

Well lets see what Micah 5 says.

Mic 5:1 ¶ Now gather thyself in troops, O daughter of troops: he hath laid siege against us: they shall smite the judge of Israel with a rod upon the cheek.

Mic 5:2 ¶ But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, [though] thou be little among the thousands of Judah, [yet] out of thee shall he come forth unto me [that is] to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth [have been] from of old, from everlasting.

Mic 5:3 Therefore will he give them up, until the time [that] she which travaileth hath brought forth: then the remnant of his brethren shall return unto the children of Israel.

Mic 5:4 And he shall stand and feed in the strength of the LORD, in the majesty of the name of the LORD his God; and they shall abide: for now shall he be great unto the ends of the earth.

Mic 5:5 And this [man] shall be the peace, when the Assyrian shall come into our land: and when he shall tread in our palaces, then shall we raise against him seven shepherds, and eight principal men.

Mic 5:6 And they shall waste the land of Assyria with the sword, and the land of Nimrod in the entrances thereof: thus shall he deliver [us] from the Assyrian, when he cometh into our land, and when he treadeth within our borders.

So did Christ deliver the Jews from the Assyrians? I don't think so. This was your numero uno prophecy. Was it clear? No. Was it unambiguous? No.

And you suppose to presume that this phrase "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." constitutes a fulfillment of the prophecy? What ever happened to the Assyrians?

Let me explain how this is supposed to work. A prophet makes a clear unambiguous prophecy (that is what prophets are supposed to do) and then it happens. I will give you an example. Jesus Christ (The Messiah) will be nailed to a Roman cross and die. Now how hard would it be for GOD to get one of his Prophets to say that?

Do you know why the Jews never accepted Christ as the Messiah? Because he never fulfilled the prophecies.

[Religion Moderator]

I was off forum for several days due to a family health emergency. But I’m back now.

[sevenbak]

Actually FC, that wasn’t my comment. But I support it. If ever there was proof that hosing was needed at times, just look at some of these posts. Start with #110.

[LeGrande]

I bet you are Catholic.

and I bet you are quick to judge

When someone defines themselves by who they aren't, specifically as in not Leo Farnsworth, it is very telling. The premise of the movie is that God made a mistake and sent Warren Beatty back into another persons body, Leo Farnsworth.

So I have to decide what is the salient point, reincarnation? Not really that isn't how it works. The salient point is that God made a mistake and what religion teaches that God can make a mistake? Catholicism. Otherwise what is the point of giving money to Priests to get loved ones out of hell? Obviously it is to rectify a mistake that GOD made : ) Money just makes it easier for God to rectify his error.

[Tennessee Nana]

Hope your family member is OK now

[sevenbak]

Everything OK?

[Revelation 911]

Do you know why the Jews never accepted Christ as the Messiah? Because he never fulfilled the prophecies.

the prophecies were fulfilled, however, the jews expectations and interp were for something else entirely.

[Revelation 911]

I cant beleieve that you actually spent that much effort to respond to that LOL

must have really struck a point

[Religion Moderator]

Thank you both! The emergency has passed, now for the long recovery.

[sevenbak]

Are Mormons full blown Pelagians, or are they semi-Pelagians?

Well, since Palagians believe that man is unaffected by the Fall of Adam, then you need a third choice:

None of the above.

2 Ne. 2: 19 Adam and Eve had partaken of the forbidden fruit.
2 Ne. 2: 25 Adam fell that men might be.
2 Ne. 9: 6 resurrection must needs come . . . by reason of the fall.
Mosiah 3: 11 those who have fallen by the transgression of Adam.
Mosiah 3: 19 natural man is an enemy to God, and has been from the fall of Adam.
Mosiah 4: 7 atonement . . . for all mankind . . . since the fall of Adam.
Mosiah 16: 4 redeemed his people from their lost and fallen state.
Alma 12: 22 Adam did fall by the partaking of the forbidden fruit.
Alma 22: 14 since man had fallen he could not merit anything.
Alma 34: 9 all are fallen and are lost.
Alma 42: 6 man became . . . fallen man.
Alma 42: 9 fall had brought . . . a spiritual death.
Hel. 14: 16 fall of Adam being cut off from the presence of the Lord.
Morm. 9: 12 by Adam came the fall of man.
Ether 3: 2 because of the fall our natures have become evil.
D&C 20: 20 by the transgression . . . became fallen man.
D&C 29: 41 he should be cast out . . . from my presence.
D&C 93: 38 God having redeemed man from the fall.
D&C 138: 19 preached . . . redemption of mankind from the fall.
Moses 5: 9 as thou hast fallen thou mayest be re deemed.
Moses 6: 48 Because that Adam fell we are, and by his fall came death.

[sevenbak]

Well, since everyone here seems to think I’m getting special treatment because I post these threads (which aren’t devotional or Caucus BTW) anyway, then I don’t have anything to lose by wishing you and your family God speed in that arena.

They already think I’m sucking up, so let this be more imaginary fodder for them:

Good luck to you and yours.