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To: Zakeet
Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs which indeed appear beautiful outwardly, but inside are full of dead men's bones and all uncleanness. Matt. 23:27
Christ was not particularly subtle when dealing individuals who were propounding false doctrine.

He wasn't. But in this particular case he wasn't addressing their doctrine, but their hypocritical behavior and thoughts.

But He also infallibly knew and taught the truth. He also infallibly knew the hearts and souls of men. So when you find yourself infallible, go for it.

79 posted on 05/10/2008 7:46:40 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC; Zakeet; P-Marlowe; colorcountry; Enosh; HereInTheHeartland; greyfoxx39; Godzilla; ...
OK, here goes my “specific” additional comments:

#1

When other posters cited the way Jesus treated the Pharisees, your response was: But in this particular case he wasn't addressing their doctrine, but their hypocritical behavior and thoughts.

To a Mormon, what is foundational doctrine if not authority. Please read Luke 20. You’ll see that you cannot cleanly separate doctrine from behavior (even Mormons know this). In that chapter the Pharisees question the very source of authority Jesus operates under (20:2). Jesus goes on to tell them a parable about their violence toward the representative of the authority. Jesus was telling them that their very violence was rooted in the protection of the religious turf—the vineyard—that they claimed apart from the owner. The Pharisees knew that this indirect accusation by Jesus of being mass murderers was uttered ”against them” (Luke 20:19).

Earlier, Jesus had cut into the Pharisees (literal meaning of “sarcasm” is to cut into): Woe unto you, lawyers! For ye have taken away the key of knowledge. (Luke 11:52). Jesus didn’t just harp only on their hypocrisy & general behavior, but very specific behavior which had removed “the key of knowledge.” (Are you going to try to claim that “the key of knowledge” doesn’t have anything to do with doctrine?)

Yet one more example: Please review John 8:31-55. As you read through that, note these words & concepts & tell me that as Jesus openly condemns the Pharisees, is he addressing more concepts related to doctrine, or behavior, or as I would claim, more doctrine but can’t be separated from behavior?

”Truth” (John 8:31, 32, 40, 46 + 44 says don’t abide in the truth);
“no word in you” (John 8:37); “can’t hear the word” (8:43,47);
“don’t believe in me” (John 8:45); don’t know the Father (8:55); don’t belong to God (8:47);
children of the devil (8:42,44);
bondage (8:33) vs. freedom (8:36)

183 posted on 05/11/2008 4:24:26 AM PDT by Colofornian
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