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To: DManA

Not since the beginning, but 400 years after Christ, written in creeds. The early Fathers certainly didn’t hold such doctrine, it’s not scriptural.

If you want to point out references of them being of one substance, I will yield.


342 posted on 05/09/2008 7:02:32 AM PDT by sevenbak (1 Corinthians 2:14)
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To: sevenbak

John certainly did believed it. It’s been settled doctrine for eons. It’s definitional. It’s what Christian believe. It’s what seperates us from non-Christian.

I can’t convince you of the truth, only the Holy Spirit has that power.


346 posted on 05/09/2008 7:07:44 AM PDT by DManA
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To: sevenbak; AppyPappy
John 14:9 Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'?

Post 330 already has the *I and my Father are one* reference. I don't see how it can be stated much plainer or clearer. What are you looking for in the way of statements to prove that Jesus IS God? How could it be stated any better?

384 posted on 05/09/2008 7:49:52 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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