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To: MHGinTN

there are a lot of related videos there too that have very interesting information.


2,777 posted on 07/19/2008 8:53:57 PM PDT by Godzilla (The American Revolution would never have happened with gun control.)
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To: Godzilla; Tennessee Nana
Yes, and I was particularly struck by Ballards urging that 'only' by a feeling when reading the BM can one know it is scripture from God! How many times has a mormonism apologist told us that when backed into a corner with the evidence contrary to the claims in the BM?
Yet the apologists do their best to twist evidence to read it as if it doesn't show the fallacies claimed by the BM.
Or twist a finding to be a 'proof that Joeseph Smith translated golden plates using a peepstone in a hat' or alternately 'the Urim and Thummim of Old Testament' (which plates and Urim and Thummim are never going to be in evidence according to Ballard, but which apologists work feverishly to fabricate look-a-likes of).
Or work overtime to make juvenile connections to poetic techniques or educational similies or long passages lifted from the King James Bible supposedly hundreds of years before the King James Bible even existed ... it gets amusing if it weren't for the dire eternal consequences of the deceptions!

Several months ago, I was astonished to have one of the infamous apologists claim the BofM was translated using ther Urim and Thummim, and when I showed him the quote from Smith's 'scribe' stating Joe used his 'peepstone in the hat' trick with absolutely no plates in front of him, the apologist blighthly skipped on into some other foolishness in an effort to distract from the blatant fabrications, gross lies, and insidious heresies at the heart of mrmonism!

A similar thing happened with accusations from the BM apologists that God gave Saul's wives to David while Saul was still alive thus polyandry/polygamy was directly justified by God! When the corrected timeline was shown to the poster from the OT (that Saul's household was placed in David's after Saul was dead), the issue miraculously shifted to polygamy is not specifically spoken against in the OT, ignoring completely the fact that the BM expressly prohibits polygamy and polyandry!

It is no wonder some have said discussing mormonism vagaries with mormon apologists is like trying to nail jell-o to a wall. Yet the apologists whine that we don't want reasoned debate!

2,778 posted on 07/19/2008 9:22:47 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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