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ROTFL...this is getting funnier and funnier....keep trying to convince yourself that an unverified supposed conversation is factual.....Lawyers...courts of law......LOLOLOL! Take that unverified conversation attributed by a mormon to a Catholic theologian to a judge and see how far you get!

Call the cops! Get a warrant!.......HAHAHA!

As I quoted before:

As Dr. John A. Reiner, a Catholic Theologian said:

“You Mormons are all ignoramuses. You don’t even know the strength of your own position. It is so strong that there is only one other tenable in the whole Christian world, and that is the position of the Catholic Church. The issue is between Catholicism and Mormonism. If we are right, you are wrong; if you are right, we are wrong; and that’s all there is to it. The Protestants haven’t a leg to stand on. If we are wrong, they are wrong with us, for they were a part of us and went out from us; while if we are right, they are apostates whom we cut off long ago. If we really have, as we claim, the apostolic succession from St. Peter, there was no need for Joseph Smith and Mormonism; but if we have not that succession, then such a man as Joseph Smith was necessary, and Mormonism’s attitude is the only consistent one. It is either the perpetuation of the Gospel from ancient times, or the restoration of the Gospel in latter days.”

Source : A Marvelous Work and a Wonder, p. 3

I also like Orson F. Whitney's comment back to him:

I replied: "Doctor, I agree with you in almost everything that you have said; but don't deceive yourself with the notion that we 'Mormons' do not know the strength of our own position. We know it better than you do; we know it better than any other people can know it. We have not all been to college; we cannot all speak the dead languages, and we may be ignoramuses as you say, but we know we are right, and we know that you are wrong." I was just as frank with him as he had been with me.

The Name of the Theologian quoted can be found in http://www.bycommonconsent.com/2008/01/a-footnote-to-the-strength-of-the-mormon-position/

In an autobiography by Orson F. Whitney, called "Through Memory’s Halls: The Life Story of Orson F. Whitney". So you maintain that it's a fraudulent citation in a marvelous work and a wonder because Orson F Whitney does not have third party corroboration to a private conversation with a friend? How many of your conversations do you have a witness to? Does that mean they didn't happen?

Yes, this is funny, I can't wait till the next time you try to use some one persons testimony against Joseph Smith. This standard you are espousing will come back to bite you.

Now as to further citations: TexAgs.com has a citation, The entire story was on page 222-223. The brilliant Catholic Scholar's name is: (drum roll) Dr. John A. Reiner.

I have requested a copy of the pages in question...

Anti's seem to keep trying to understand without God the things Of God. I don't mean you are not acquainted with God, you just don't seem to ask him the important questions as if to say you'll figure it our your self. Paul struck the keynote when he said: Paul hit the nail on the head (as usual) in ! Corr 2:9-11

9. Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
10. But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit; for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
11. For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? Even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

you insist that someone else had to hear a conversation in order for it to be admissible, I dispute that, or most of our scriptures go the way of the trash bin. Unless you assertion is that any Mormon must have a non Mormon witness to what was said. (which again goes to the "who made you an moderator?" question again.

Let's actually explore the Theory postulated here, it's one of authority, if the Catholic church had a falling away, a mere reformation would not be able to restore lost authority, and since authority is passed by the laying on of hands in the Bible, there would have to have been an angel, or someone to receive the authority from Come and visit someone to reestablish the church of God.

If on the other hand, the Catholic church never apostatized, then there is no need for Joseph smith, nor any of the protestant churches.

The protestants simply and authoritatively have no leg to stand on, that's why many have gone to the All Christians have the priesthood (a totally un biblical position).

I still wonder why John Reiner bothers you so much...