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To: SkyPilot; Godzilla; sevenbak
I Said: Lurkers, Godzilla is a paid Theologian, he is paid to represent his church

U Said: DU - you really can't believe this. Maybe you can, but if you do - I think you may not be in touch with reality.

Are you saying I should not believe Godzilla when he said he was a paid theologian?

I would never impugn his reputation bay saying he didn't tell the truth when he said that.

U Said: But, your paranoid thoughts on Godzilla are actually a compliment. He/She is obviously very knowledgeable - and a terribly good debater.

Paranoid? If everyone really is out to get you , does that realization still make you paranoid? (LOL!)

I am not paranoid, and Godzilla is terrible lizard, (Godzilla being a dinosaur that was awakened after a long sleep, and Dinosaur meaning terrible lizard) as for him being a terrible debater, I'd agree with that too.

U Said: There are quite a lot of good debate skills here on FR.

Yes, there are, unfortunately, the appreciation of those "skills" seems to depend on whether or not you are on the side of the debater employing them.

U Said: Some are horrible at it - like sevenbak. All he does is spam threads with page after page of nothing, again and again.

I find sevenbak's posts very informative, and often he hits the ball out of the park so far that you guys just call lost ball and claim it was not a home run. (it's appreciation by side of argument again)

U Said: Godzilla is good - he is clear, and on target in every point.

He's big (even bigger than my posts), He's bad (He has called me names a few times), he's mean (he has never apologized or admitted that he was wrong even when proven so), He breaths fire, OK well not actual fire... (just having fun with the name...)

I believe Godzilla is antiquated, his views are steeped in tradition, and his methods do not take into account new findings, or modern methodology he is stuck on information being peer reviewed and not just whether or not it is true (the Bible was not peer reviewed... a peer review does not make something true, ask the flat earth society, they have peers who review their stuff). From my perspective, he denies the word of God in favor of the doctrines of men for money.

You can decry my words all you want, you can laud him all you want, I am after something no man can provide.
1,347 posted on 05/14/2008 1:45:19 PM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: DelphiUser

DelphiEser,
Tracing all words back to the roots of them as found in the one mother tongue which was given at the Garden of Eden and scrambled =mingled- at Babel shows that Nephi is frm the root used for the nephilim.

Here is a link to a book which will help teach you the science of language and how all roots for all words are found in the edenic[ first Hebrew]language.
http://www.amazon.com/Origin-Speeches-Intelligent-Design-Language/dp/0971938881

Here’s a [you tube type channel], presentation explaining it: http://www.brightcove.tv/channel.jsp?channel=429049167
It’s about a half hour long, and worth the view.

Here’s an e-word dictionary entry for the word which gives us the plural nephilim,w hich is translated as giants in the AV;
FALL NaFahL Noon-Phey-Lamed
(Naw)-FULL__________________[PH-L]
ROOTS: Anglo-Saxon feallan and the IE root phol (to fall) have not FALLEN far from the Hebrew (Na)PHahL (to FALL, to BEFALL). (Hee)PeeYL is to FELL or TOPPLE (make fall). Falling into a pit is the (Na)FahL of Exodus 21:33, while the FALL or DOWNFALL of a city recalls (M’a)PaLaH (ruin, downfall, defeat – Isaiah 7:1). More at “SPILL.” In Genesis 25:18, Ishmael is NaFahL in the face of all his brothers. The KJV renders this “died,” while the JPS tries “they made raids… (uncertain).” Both interpretations do not echo Peh-Lamed elsewhere. A FALL word like FAIL makes more sense.

BRANCHES: APOLLYON the angel is from a Greek verb of ruining and destroying. The mysterious Nephilim (fallen ones - Genesis 6:4) may have landed like nephele (clouds - Greek source of NEBULA).
Darkness and night FALL. APHaL is to set (as the sun); APHayLaH is darkness (which falls – see “PALL”). Official cognates of FALL include OFFAL, but not FAIL, FAUL(T), (reversing P-L) LAP(SE) or LABILE.
The French and Rumanian “rain” words seem to have the PL root of falling (pluie,ploaie).
OFFAL (garbage) is something that people toss or let fall. The IE root of OFFAL is (ap, off, away), but is might be a Pey-Lamed term of falling that belong here, along with other waste words like French gaspillage, German abfall and Dutch afval. German accident is unfall, recalling the DOWNFALL and FAILING above. Japanese “fall,” furu, is only a common liquid shift away. Like FAIL, furu can also men “reject.””


1,351 posted on 05/14/2008 2:23:04 PM PDT by prayforpeaceofJerusalem
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To: DelphiUser; SkyPilot; greyfoxx39; Tennessee Nana; colorcountry; Osage Orange; FastCoyote; Elsie; ..
He's big (even bigger than my posts), He's bad (He has called me names a few times), he's mean (he has never apologized or admitted that he was wrong even when proven so), He breaths fire, OK well not actual fire... (just having fun with the name...)

I believe Godzilla is antiquated, his views are steeped in tradition, and his methods do not take into account new findings, or modern methodology he is stuck on information being peer reviewed and not just whether or not it is true (the Bible was not peer reviewed... a peer review does not make something true, ask the flat earth society, they have peers who review their stuff). From my perspective, he denies the word of God in favor of the doctrines of men for money.

Hi DU, you must be talking about yourself in the first paragraph (with the exception of the fire issue). So the next time I’ll remember to bring you some cheese to go with that whine. You are wrong on every count – except for the name calling – I guess the term Fluffy is incredibly heinous in comparison to what I’ve been called here by mormons.

New findings…… like the Los Lunas stone – rejected even by mormon investigators. You really don’t understand the meaning of peer review either do you? Flat earthers research would not (and does not) stand up to peer review – that is why they are ridiculed, like similar groups who tout foolishness. Modern methodologies like this one:

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/caribbean/sfl-flaearlyamerican0509sbmay09,0,5490437.story?track=rss

Or the mountain of dna and related evidence showing native American descent from Mongloid stock, not Semetic. Answers to FARMS/FAIR drivel are found below:

http://www.signaturebooks.com/excerpts/Losing2.htm

Infact mormon apologists have pretty much torn themselves up trying to explain or write off the results of research, divided up into Hemispheric Geographists, Limited Geographists, North American Geographists and Alternative Geographists. Why all the theory – because there is no evidence that the BOM is true and the at the peoples listed were ever here to begin with. More grins and giggles reading how they stumble over themselves here:

http://www.signaturebooks.com/dna.htm

Even your favorite cite – wilki – disses you:

Since the late 1990s and the pioneering work of Luigi Luca Cavalli-Sforza and others, scientists have developed techniques that attempt to use genetic markers to indicate the ethnic background and history of individual people. The consensus view is that the Native Americans have very distinctive DNA markers, and that they are most similar, among old world populations, to the DNA of people anciently associated with the Altay Mountains area of central Asia, near the intersections of Russia, China, Mongolia, and Kazakhstan. There is little significant support outside the LDS for the hypothesis that these peoples originated as migrants from the Middle East.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetics_and_the_Book_of_Mormon

Is this recent and modern enough for you DU, or are you stuck in the traditions of a man?

How about modern Egyptology and the BOA scroll (aka Book of Breathing). Do you really want to explore tradition v modern discoveries and research on this subject?

Traditions – nah, I’m not stuck on them DU, the one stuck is looking at you in your mirror :)

Since it appears you haven’t made it to post 1190 in your responses, my profile has been on line for 4 years available for all to look at. That is hardly hiding it. But it has brought me numerous grins and giggles at how you attempt to slander me by calling me a paid theologian. I await your apology

1,364 posted on 05/14/2008 3:08:40 PM PDT by Godzilla (I'm out of my mind, but feel free to leave a message.)
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