We will actively define our faith here rather than just respond to accusations.
By Freeper: Grig
Back at you babe. We Christians will do the same.
"I have spoken openly to the world," Jesus replied. "I always taught in synagogues or at the temple, where all the Jews come together. I said nothing in secret. Why question me? Ask those who heard me. Surely they know what I said."
John 18: 20-21
From here on, we Christian who oppose the Mormon Cult shall be known as:
The Unhosed Pigs
What I find disturbing is how LDS related posts that direct references to historical or archelogical claims get tagged as “devotional”. Threads related to such subjects should be wide open to debate and not closed.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/888189/posts?page=277#277
"Thats when people post pro-apologetic information regarding thier own faith, posters respond with diverging views and opinions, and you shout them down and cry to the mods" (rev911 2003)
"As far as I understand, in the context of the conservative movement (and religion plays a huge part of that) I can post my opinions, I can post historical information, or doctrinal flaws, or theological vacancies in any faith as long as it is not not in a bashing manner" (rev911 2003)
"JR has told us not to bash - he didnt say stop discussing it" (rev911 2003)
Certainly the abundance of threads is due to Mitts candidacy, the flds issue, and doctrinal disagreements....stop playing the vic.
Why the moderators here don't see the behavior of these anti-Mormon activists as religion bashing is a mystery to us
whos in charge here?....you apparently missed the lds wars of 03 when a great many calvinists were purged ....it ultimately spawned the religion forum
Rather than try to wrestle the pig into taking a bath, we are just going to hose it down
what lovely spiritual fruits (sarc)
I’m going to try to ignore this thread from now on.
I can’t imagine finding another way to say what I’ve said, and I haven’t seen a new thought it a while from myself or anybody else.
To all:
I am leaving this thread. So don’t feel bad if I don’t respond to your replies. If I see a reply that truly needs responding, I may come back, but don’t expect it.
For the record I don’t think ANY denomination is “true”. Every denomination that I have ever studied has something I don’t agree with.
Literal body and blood, communion wine for the people, infant baptism, free will to salvation, faith+works, purgatory, salvation of all who die before the age of understanding, no pictures of Jesus, worship on Saturday, confession and absolution through action, no drinking, no dancing, salvation only to the chosen, no swimming (yep, there are churches like that), no dating, speaking in tongues, no music, no hymns, no instruments, no drums, hats for women, women pastors, women elders, 6-day-creation, baptism of believers, wine, grape juice, ....
Every one of those is practiced by at least one “denomination”, and is rejected by at least one other “denomination”. It is unlikely that they are all the “true” dictates of God, unless you believe in a God who is very loose on what is “true, and right, and perfect”.
For example, If one denomination teaches that tongues are a gift from God, and another teaches that tongues are a deception from the Devil, it is hard to see how they can both be “true”.
We could spend our lives focusing on the differences, and attacking each other for them. But that, to me, is rather counterproductive. And on a conservative political forum, it is death to conservatism if we break apart based on religious differences that have nothing to do with our conservative political values.
People who support tax cuts, limited government, a strong military, support for the family, oppose abortion and gay marriage and the corsening of our culture, are our ALLIES — even if they have rediculous religious beliefs.
So I believe it would be beneficial to the conservative cause if the attacks over religion remained firmly in the religion forum, and did not leak out into the political discussions we have elsewhere.
There's a big Internet out there that anyone can use.
>> When Mormon missionaries were murdered, the moderators were kept busy pulling jubilant posts off the thread. <<
That really is terrible. Apparently, they did a good job; I never saw such a post.
Free Republic has become like going to temple/church/mosque.
Why so many LDS threads? I think it’s because non-LDS Christians don’t “walk the walk” like most LDS’ers.
They’d rather bash ‘em than admire (and judge) them from their fruits.
I’m not LDS - but I admire the work they do and that they take care of those in their religion. I can’t say that about most of the Christians I know.
I agree there has been this kind of hostility, some of it from those claiming an "Evangelical" or "fundamentalist" Christian mantle.
I argue that, to the extent this is true, it is self-destructive to ALL conservatives.
Our elections do not elect the Messiah or his seconds in command; such features will never be part of the role or attributes of our secular government.
As such, we need to elect Conservatives whose point of view, policies and positions will provide GOVERNMENT secular actions that respect our secular and religious liberty and promote ALL secular conservative values. The rest - promotion of our religious traditions - is up to us, in our free relationships - and not our elected leaders.
I will take anyone from any "cult" that believes in and respects those positions over someone running on a theme that he better represents MY faith tradition. If you understand Marxist liberation theology, then you know that it is exactly that kind of irrational appeal to FAITH by which many are supporting BHO.
You are quite far off with that statement.
I've noticed that Mormons are obsessed with "denominations" so as to have the LDS seen as a Christian denomination.
In fact "freedom of religion" back then meant freedom to belong to any denomination, and not have one religion (Christian denomination) as the one representing America.
It had nothing to do with freedom of non-Christian religions like Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, etc.
For example, the FLDS is a denomination of the LDS religion.
They have the same base and starting point.
Your statement, "Lutherans are a separate and distinct religion from Catholicism" is off base.
Both are Christian denominations, but the exact same religion.
They have the same starting point.
If you wish to post some quotes from history (Christian history, not Mormon history) that prove your point about how Christianity is structured, I would like to see that.
When ever I post something about the Mormon religion, I always point to the writings of the LDS church.