[dorothy]

Whoa! Christ was murdered? Silly me. I thought he voluntarily gave up His life for us. Now, thanks to your apparently very-quickly-prepared screed, I see He was just a simple victim, hardly the stuff of Saviors. /s

[r9etb]

Whoa! Christ was murdered? Silly me. I thought he voluntarily gave up His life for us.

Both can be true ... and are, in this case. Jesus didn't just keel over and die, after all. He had some help.