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[Catholic] Church Recognizes Virgin Mary Appearances in France
The (New Orleans) Times-Picayune ^ | May 4, 2008 | The Associated Press

Posted on 05/05/2008 6:42:29 AM PDT by Ebenezer

PARIS (AP) — A Roman Catholic bishop said Sunday that the church has officially recognized that the Virgin Mary appeared to a 17th-century shepherd girl in the French Alps.

Speaking at Mass in remarks broadcast nationally on France-2 television, Monsignor Jean-Michel di Falco Leandri said he recognized the "supernatural origin" of the apparitions to 17-year-old Benoite Rencurel from 1664 to 1718.

(Excerpt) Read more at nola.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; History; Worship
KEYWORDS: catholicchurch; france; marianapparitions; virginmary
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1 posted on 05/05/2008 6:42:30 AM PDT by Ebenezer
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To: Teófilo; NYer; Salvation; Nihil Obstat; mileschristi; bornacatholic

ping


2 posted on 05/05/2008 6:43:31 AM PDT by Ebenezer (Strength and Honor!)
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To: rrstar96

I will point out to those who expect any pope to magically transform the whole Church in the space of a few years that it took the Vatican 290+ years to fully evaluate this appearance.


3 posted on 05/05/2008 6:48:31 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: rrstar96

How did they know it was her?


4 posted on 05/05/2008 6:53:55 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: stuartcr

Mary is our heavenly mother and she has visited with some frequency at Lourdes, Fatima, Beaurang, LaSalette, and many other places. She is our mom.


5 posted on 05/05/2008 7:10:39 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: stuartcr

Photo ID?


6 posted on 05/05/2008 7:19:27 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: stuartcr

AND the photo ID also showed that she wasn’t a Democrat. This significantly sped up the affirmation process.


7 posted on 05/05/2008 7:21:08 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: rrstar96

And please, let me point out that NO ONE is required to believe in any apparition.

I am a Catholic and doubt some as well.


8 posted on 05/05/2008 7:22:18 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am very mad at Disney. Give me my James Marsden song!!!!!)
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To: wideawake

>> I will point out to those who expect any pope to magically transform the whole Church in the space of a few years that it took the Vatican 290+ years to fully evaluate this appearance. <<

Hehehe. Well stated. I’ll try to behave.


9 posted on 05/05/2008 7:24:30 AM PDT by dangus
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To: stuartcr; BlackElk

When the Church approves a Marian apparition after a thorough investigation, it simply declares that the apparition in question is “worthy of belief” but passes no official judgement as to its involving the Blessed Virgin. In addition, the Church does not require Catholics to believe in the apparitions even if approved.


10 posted on 05/05/2008 7:32:51 AM PDT by Ebenezer (Strength and Honor!)
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To: rrstar96

How do they know which Mary it was?


11 posted on 05/05/2008 7:37:22 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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Generally, Mary will identify herself as the blessed mother in some form or another.


12 posted on 05/05/2008 8:26:40 AM PDT by raygunfan
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To: rrstar96

Agreed in every particular.


13 posted on 05/05/2008 8:28:32 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: rrstar96

Aren’t most/all of these sightings of a European-looking Mary? If so, it’s a tip-off they weren’t the real deal.


14 posted on 05/05/2008 9:22:06 AM PDT by gdani
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To: gdani

“Aren’t most/all of these sightings of a European-looking Mary? If so, it’s a tip-off they weren’t the real deal.”

She appeared to a European. When she appeared in Mexico as Our Lady of Guadalupe, she was dark, with dark hair and garbed in robes whose colors were significant to the Indians. The black sash around her waist indicates pregnancy and was common in that culture.

We aren’t required to believe in appartions. We aren’t required to believe prophecies that are pronounced, but we are also taught not to dispise them either.

I am not willing to say God or God’s messengers did or did not speak directly to someone, especially if that message is in line with repentence, return to God, and prayer.


15 posted on 05/05/2008 9:55:35 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: wideawake

I believe it is up to the local Bishop or Archbishop to determine if there is a valid apparation. And even then it remains a matter of private devotion and not public revealation. The Bishop simply determines that there is nothing contrary to the Catholic faith in such a devotion and that the apparation can not be explained by natural means.


16 posted on 05/05/2008 9:58:45 AM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: lastchance; wideawake

I want to add in every recoginized apparation our Blessed Mother always brings the message for us to repent and to return to Christ. She encourages prayer and the Christian virtues of faith, hope and charity.

As in her earthly life she always points to her Son our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Her mission is to urge us to reconcile with Christ and avoid that Day of Wrath.


17 posted on 05/05/2008 10:08:17 AM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: gdani
Our Lady of La Vang appeared to be Vietnamese to the people who claimed to have seen her.
18 posted on 05/05/2008 10:29:34 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: OpusatFR; gdani

By the same token, when the Virgin Mary appears in a certain place, she addresses the seer in the local language or dialect. For example, Our Lady of Guadalupe spoke to Juan Diego in the Aztec language Nahuatl, while Our Lady of Lourdes spoke to Bernadette Soubirous in the local French Patois.


19 posted on 05/05/2008 10:42:10 AM PDT by Ebenezer (Strength and Honor!)
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To: rrstar96

By the same token, I believe that Satan can do the same thing.


20 posted on 05/05/2008 10:49:42 AM PDT by Delta 21 ( MKC USCG - ret)
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