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To: Grig
I'm somewhat familiar with Mormon teaching regarding "the Great Apostasy." I find it very interesting. One thing I've never quite understood about it though, is how the LDS/ Jehovah's Witnesses explain the last part of Matthew 28:

19"Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, [...] 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen."

If the Lord promised to be with His Church until the "end of the world," allowing them to correctly teach and observe the things He had taught them ... wouldn't that make total apostasy as described by the LDS and other Restorationist groups impossible?

In light of this promise, how or why could the Lord Jesus have permitted "the Gospel to be lost," as LDS says it was?
6 posted on 05/04/2008 5:37:58 PM PDT by Lilllabettt
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To: Lilllabettt

If you read the Book of Exodus, you will discover that God’s covenants and promises are conditional. And if we keep sinning and sinning, spitting in God’s face, we crucify His Son again and again. God can only take so much. He has feelings.

It’s like when a wayward child breaks his parents’ hearts so many times, they finally let go and the child (who is an adult) is free. The parents wait patiently for her return but they will no longer interfere.


10 posted on 05/04/2008 5:53:03 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Lilllabettt
I'm somewhat familiar with Mormon teaching regarding “the Great Apostasy.” I find it very interesting. One thing I've never quite understood about it though, is how the LDS/ Jehovah's Witnesses explain the last part of Matthew 28:

19”Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, [...] 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.”

If the Lord promised to be with His Church until the “end of the world,” allowing them to correctly teach and observe the things He had taught them ... wouldn't that make total apostasy as described by the LDS and other Restorationist groups impossible?

In light of this promise, how or why could the Lord Jesus have permitted “the Gospel to be lost,” as LDS says it was?

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After reading what went before this verse of scripture, it looks like Jesus is talking to and about the 11 disciples, not the church as a whole.

11 posted on 05/04/2008 5:55:13 PM PDT by fproy2222 ( Jesus is the Christ)
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To: Lilllabettt

If God makes a promise, it does not change. His nature has never changed. When He tells us that his church will prevail under all conditions, it simply means that it has and it always will. His plan has been continuous through all time.

There never was an apostacy, as claimed, because it is an impossibility that it would have occured.

Jesus did not come to earth to lie to his disciples and the people He ministered. He came to show us the truth and that He is the key to finding the way to the Father. If you hold onto Christ, you are always a child of God.

The Mormon church emphasizes only what the prophets say. And yet, they claim that Jesus came to the Americas. When Jesus did come to the America’s what did He say? I NEVER see the Mormons quote His words. Are they concerned that if they did, we could all see that the Jesus of the Mormon church is NOT the Jesus of the NT?

So, show me chapter and verse in BOM where Jesus CHANGED his plan for mankind.

If Jesus came to the America’s as claimed, HIS WORDS would be of the most importance to mankind. Why aren’t they explained in detail on Mormon threads? Where are they, I ask?

If anyone cares to share these quotes of Jesus with us, I’m certain we would all be interested in learning what the BOM claims He said.


26 posted on 05/05/2008 8:49:25 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife
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