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To: conservativegramma; wagglebee
Then she MUST have been preserved from the stain of sin, otherwise Eve

Why???

Do try to follow the arugment. Reading the posts of others is a good way to start.

If Mary is blessed among all women, as the Bible states, then she must be of a greater station than Eve. Right? Otherwise Eve would be most blessed.

Eve was created without sin. Do you doubt that?

Wouldn't being created without sin be a greater thing than being created with the stain of sin? (Original sin, we speak of here.)

That means Eve would be more blessed than Mary, unless Mary was also preserved from Original Sin.

664 posted on 05/05/2008 3:27:32 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave; conservativegramma; wagglebee
If Mary is blessed among all women, as the Bible states, then she must be of a greater station than Eve. Right? Otherwise Eve would be most blessed.

No, It need not have anything to do with sin at all.

Eve was created without sin. Do you doubt that?

No I do not doubt that.

Wouldn't being created without sin be a greater thing than being created with the stain of sin? (Original sin, we speak of here.)

Perhaps, though beside the point.

That means Eve would be more blessed than Mary, unless Mary was also preserved from Original Sin.

Not at all. Being chosen to be the vessel which brings the Living God among men is a higher honor than any, and that is the point of "blessed among women", not her condition of sin, one way or the other, but in spite of it.

671 posted on 05/05/2008 4:07:13 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: SoothingDave
If Mary is blessed among all women, as the Bible states, then she must be of a greater station than Eve. Right?

No. Blessed does not mean greater in stature. It means happy. That's it. As I stated in a previous post the same greek word translated blessed is translated happy (KJV) in James 5:11. It can also mean approved, well thought of, etc. Never exalted or great. To claim that blessed means to be in a greater station is a corruption of the Greek text.

Eve was created without sin. Do you doubt that?

Nope.

Wouldn't being created without sin be a greater thing than being created with the stain of sin? (Original sin, we speak of here.)

Nope. Mary herself acknowledged her own sin, so that don't fly. Luke 1:48a "For he hath regarded the low estate of his handmaiden...(KJV)" "...humble state...."(NASV; NIV; ESV); "....LOWLY state..."(NKJV) As I stated in a previous post the Greek word here for low, lowly or humble means to affirm one's sinful condition or guilt before God.

...unless Mary was also preserved from Original Sin.

If that were true Mary is a liar since she admitted her sin (see above Luke 1:48). Whoops, and if she's a liar then there's your sin and around and around we go........

What Roman Catholicism has done is create a different Mary from Scripture. They've created a sinless version which is blasphemy and contradicts Romans 3:23, "For ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God." All means ALL. And this includes Mary unless God is now a liar also. But hey, thanks for proving that goddess worship is in fact what the RC has done by making Mary sinless and equal to Christ.

747 posted on 05/05/2008 5:43:26 PM PDT by conservativegramma
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