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To: NYer

Say what you want. No where in the Bible, whatever version you have, does it say obey the Pope. No, my salvation rests solely on Jesus Christ no matter what any human may say.


4 posted on 05/03/2008 4:49:42 PM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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To: vpintheak

or worship Mary for that matter?


6 posted on 05/03/2008 4:55:23 PM PDT by proudtobeanamerican1 (Media -)
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To: vpintheak

I agree with you. All the proof I need is that in his epistles, Paul claims to have argued with Peter and seemed proud that he apparently won; clearly Peter in those early days wasn’t the sole authority. And I always think that they saw things a lot more clearly in the early days than we do now from a “distance” of 2000 years.


8 posted on 05/03/2008 5:10:30 PM PDT by Moonmad27 (Simplify, simplify, simplify. H.D. Thoreau)
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To: vpintheak

“my salvation rests solely on Jesus Christ no matter what any human may say.”

Amen!!


9 posted on 05/03/2008 5:11:12 PM PDT by MrLee (Sha'alu Shalom Yerushalyim!! God bless Eretz Israel.)
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To: vpintheak
"No where in the Bible, whatever version you have, does it say obey the Pope."

"And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven" (Matthew xvi, 19).

"The prime minister or chief steward of the house of David had successors. He is described as being "over the household" and "in charge of the palace" (Isa 22:15; 36:3; 1 Kings 4:6; 18:3; 2 Kings 10:5; 15:5; 18:18); as for his authority "what he shall open, no one shall shut...and what he shall shut, no one shall open" (Isa 22:22; Matt 16:19; Rev 3:7). The prime minister had an incredible amount of authority, what can only be called a supreme or plenary authority beside that of the King. This is the language of the "keys," "binding," and "loosing" that Jesus was using in Matthew 16:19. Peter was given the "keys" just as the prime minister had the "key to the house of David" (Isa 22:22). And this is important in seeing the parallel to Matthew 16:19 -- the prime minister was an office of dynastic succession (Isa 22:19,22). In other words, when the prime minister or chief steward died, another one would be selected to fill the office and take his place. Jesus recognizes the office of prime minister or chief steward ("manager" NIV) in his parables, as one who has been placed in charge and set over the household (Matt 24:45ff; 20:8; Luke 12:42; 16:1ff; cf. Gen 41:40ff; 43:19; 44:4; 45:8ff).

Peter was appointed the "chief steward" of Christ's kingdom by Christ himself. Christ was the kingly successor of David.

12 posted on 05/03/2008 5:23:31 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: vpintheak

I think someone said it doesn’t mention the Trinity either. Forget how others worship. God loves them all.


15 posted on 05/03/2008 5:33:21 PM PDT by Radl
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To: vpintheak
You're right.

And to our polytheistic Church of Rome friend; the Bible makes it's own claim to inerrency many many times, and I didn't need some pope or a handy collection of saints, (a saint for every ailment), to hand hold me or tell me what to believe. Your dogma is so transparent. And your doctrine of Maryology and praying to this host of saints is implicitly breaking the first two commandments, which makes the teaching of your popes antithetical to Christ's. Therefore by definition they are false prophets and are apostate, no matter how well intentioned they are or how much charisma they have personally.

26 posted on 05/03/2008 6:18:43 PM PDT by Carl from Marietta
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To: vpintheak
my salvation rests solely on Jesus Christ no matter what any human may say.

Catholic of the Latin Rite (aka Roman Catholic), I agree. As does the Pope.

36 posted on 05/03/2008 7:14:59 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: vpintheak

The choice is either acting like a Pope yourself, or doing what Saint Paul did—”I submitted ... “ Galatians 2:2

God is a god of order, hence, Christ chose a successor to shepherd the flock. Or we can simply run amuck in a million different interpretations. As interpretations keep proliferating (Black Theology!) with grave consequences (President Obama!) Protestantism looks less and less tenable.


291 posted on 05/04/2008 2:29:25 PM PDT by qwertyz
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To: vpintheak

“No, my salvation rests solely on Jesus Christ no matter what any human may say.”

“On Christ the Solid Rock I stand
All other ground is sinking sand
All other ground is sinking sand”


402 posted on 05/04/2008 8:18:54 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland ("We have to drain the swamp" George Bush, September 2001)
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