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To: NYer
The Protestant teaching that the Bible is the sole spiritual authority--sola scriptura --is nowhere to be found in the Bible.

That's false. The apostles said to stick to what they said and wrote. Since we can not hear them speak anymore, we have to stick with what they wrote. QED

I know the Catholic Church tries to say that we need to listen to their words, but I follow an apostolic church not the Catholic Church.

No where in the Bible does the idea of apostolic succession appear. The apostles said there weren't any secret teachings and they specifically said to teach what they taught in public.

The Bible says that we will not be orphans because of the Holy Spirit. Easy to understand. Listen to the apostles and we're not alone because of the Holy Spirit.

Besides, the Catholic Church's authority does not go back to Peter, but back to Clement, the fourth Pope. He wrote a letter and no one complained. Later Popes used Clement as case law. That's when this whole mess started. Interestingly enough, Clement's letter talks about salvation through faith alone. Even more interesting, Clement's letter talks about the phoenix as if it were real.

16 posted on 05/03/2008 5:36:14 PM PDT by Tao Yin
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To: Tao Yin
No where in the Bible does the idea of apostolic succession appear.

Just curious...why did they appoint someone to fill the place of Judas? Why is Paul's name Saul until he recieves the laying on of hands?

17 posted on 05/03/2008 5:38:25 PM PDT by thefrankbaum (Ad maiorem Dei gloriam)
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To: Tao Yin
The apostles said to stick to what they said and wrote. Since we can not hear them speak anymore, we have to stick with what they wrote. QED

FYI, "QED" is not the abbreviation for "begging the question."

19 posted on 05/03/2008 5:45:44 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Tao Yin

Besides, the Catholic Church’s authority does not go back to Peter, but back to Clement, the fourth Pope. He wrote a letter and no one complained. Later Popes used Clement as case law. That’s when this whole mess started. Interestingly enough, Clement’s letter talks about salvation through faith alone. Even more interesting, Clement’s letter talks about the phoenix as if it were real.

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GREAT POINTS. THX


76 posted on 05/03/2008 9:59:11 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Tao Yin

Apostolic succession is definetly practiced in the Book of Acts-—why do you think the Apostles lay on hands to those they are giving leadership or teaching authority to?


77 posted on 05/03/2008 10:00:20 PM PDT by ChurtleDawg (voting only encourages them)
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To: Tao Yin
...but I follow an apostolic church not the Catholic Church.

That's gibberish. The Catholic Church is THE apostolic church.

169 posted on 05/04/2008 9:53:16 AM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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