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To: Uncle Chip
“...one should defer to the writings of the apostles”.

That is a loaded statement considering the “line” continues.

What I don't get is since the Holy Spirit is suppose to “pick” the next in line, do those in the conclave who pick the “looser” not have the Holy Spirit in them? I guess those who picked the looser needs to go to the confessional more often.

The sworn secrecy bit of the conclave is even far more troublesome. What would happen if the majority does not vote “through the Holy Spirit” and strong arms (An RCC of version of Bush vs. Gore with no outside “authority” as referee) the minority? At least the current Pope put things in some perspective:

“I would not say so, in the sense that the Holy Spirit picks out the pope. ... I would say that the Spirit does not exactly take control of the affair, but rather like a good educator, as it were, leaves us much space, much freedom, without entirely abandoning us. Thus the Spirit’s role should be understood in a much more elastic sense, not that he dictates the candidate for whom one must vote. Probably the only assurance he offers is that the thing cannot be totally ruined.”

So now the Holy Spirit is an educator instead of directly picking the process? Hmmm. They cut Jesus out of the process, He is now just an observer “directing”/making “suggestions” on the conclave. What happens when the majority does not want to be educated?

Questions, questions but that is the pitfalls of traditions.

120 posted on 05/04/2008 6:25:00 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: rollo tomasi; Uncle Chip
Ahhh heck, I played the looser/loser switcheroo posting game.

My apologies.

127 posted on 05/04/2008 6:48:24 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: rollo tomasi

What I don’t get is since the Holy Spirit is suppose to “pick” the next in line, do those in the conclave who pick the “looser” not have the Holy Spirit in them? I guess those who picked the looser needs to go to the confessional more often.

= = = =

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh,

what a nice little out for those of the magicsterical ruling political power-mongering elitist clique when they

picked

outrageously reprobate Popes.

. . . .

Your contention would have SLIGHTLY more umph IF

the line of popes was squeaky clean on a long list of dimensions.

‘Tain’t so.

And y’all probably know it . . . somewhere in the deep closest where you hide truth from yourselves.


190 posted on 05/04/2008 10:24:11 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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