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Protestants and Sola Scriptura
Catholic Net ^ | George Sim Johnston

Posted on 05/03/2008 4:38:34 PM PDT by NYer

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To: OpusatFR

I never realized the mass was such a mockery of the events surrounding our Lord’s final moments prior to the crucifixion and His ascension.

I’ve always found it easier to accept Him, through faith in Him, that when He said it was finished, He had completed it all, instead of repeatedly sacrificing Him every time we take communion.


261 posted on 05/04/2008 11:23:14 AM PDT by Cvengr (Fear sees the problem emotion never solves. Faith sees & accepts the solution, problem solved.)
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To: Petronski

I ignore most of your posts.


262 posted on 05/04/2008 11:23:51 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Petronski; Quix
John Mack, HEAD of Harvard’s psychiatric chunk of the medical school . . .

Mack was a student of Holotropic Breathwork, a meditative technique developed by Stanislav Grof.

    Holotropic Breathwork is a psychotherapeutic approach developed by Stanislav Grof, M.D., Ph.D. and Christina Grof, believed to allow access to nonordinary states of consciousness. Holotropic breathing has some similarities to rebirthing, but was developed independently. Holotropic Breathwork is used by practitioners as an approach to self-exploration and healing that integrates insights from modern consciousness research, anthropology, various depth psychologies, transpersonal psychology, Eastern spiritual practices, and mystical traditions of the world.
Sounds like an invitation for Satan.
263 posted on 05/04/2008 11:25:26 AM PDT by Titanites
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To: Cvengr

“I never realized the mass was such a mockery of the events surrounding our Lord’s final moments prior to the crucifixion and His ascension.”

That’s a disgraceful remark.

We remember every single day the Lord’s sacrifice and you think that is mockery?

What a disgusting remark.

Do not address me again.


264 posted on 05/04/2008 11:25:32 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Then I will state it for you again. Do not imagine I will subject myself to your interrogation. I am not on your witness stand.


265 posted on 05/04/2008 11:25:51 AM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: OpusatFR
That term alter Christus is being falsely twisted into the suggestion that Catholics believe each priest is a fresh messiah.
266 posted on 05/04/2008 11:27:22 AM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: Petronski; MarkBsnr
As for "ellipses," since you disagree with my comment that "Rome marginalizes the word of God," let's read the entire post in question in total so there isn't any misunderstanding.

Umm, you may wish to consider what Scripture is. It is what we wrote as an accompanying manual for the teachings of the Church. The Church is what Jesus left for us, not writings. The NT wasn't put together for 300 years after Jesus was taken up to Heaven.

268 posted on 05/03/2008 3:38:02 PM PDT by MarkBsnr

Do you agree with MarkBSnr in this post?

267 posted on 05/04/2008 11:30:11 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Cvengr
I never realized the mass was such a mockery of the events surrounding our Lord's final moments prior to the crucifixion and His ascension.

I've always found it easier to accept Him, through faith in Him, that when He said it was finished, He had completed it all, instead of repeatedly sacrificing Him every time we take communion.

AMEN. These discussions can be very fruitful.

268 posted on 05/04/2008 11:32:36 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Quix; Dr. Eckleburg; Petronski

So, Dr. Eck, what is your take on this UFOTheology thing? Does it have the scriptural basis that others claim it does?


269 posted on 05/04/2008 11:33:34 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Preach the Gospel always, and when necessary use words". ~ St. Francis of Assisi)
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To: OpusatFR

Some are, some aren’t.

A minority of every Christian subgroup is aware of realities in such fields enough to be remotely well prepared for what’s ahead.

That would be tolerable IF all such individvuals walked close enough

TO JESUS

to HEAR HIS VOICE a He noted.

When they are NEITHER INFORMED of what’s on the not-to-distant horizon

AND

don’t usually manage to walk closely enough to JESUS to hear HIS VOICE . . .

that sets up some possibilities/probabilities for more suffering-than-necessary, that are not attractive to ponder.


270 posted on 05/04/2008 11:34:04 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix; Dr. Eckleburg; Petronski

So, Dr. Eck, what is your take on this UFOTheology thing? Does it have the scriptural basis that others claim it does?


271 posted on 05/04/2008 11:34:58 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Preach the Gospel always, and when necessary use words". ~ St. Francis of Assisi)
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To: TheDon
Sorry, for the misunderstanding.

Cardinals are the “Princes of the Church” picked by the Pope usually Archbishops or from the Curia assisting the Pope in governing the Church. The organization and hierarchy of the college of cardinals consist of Bishops/Priest/Deacons for ceremonial purposes.

272 posted on 05/04/2008 11:37:09 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Titanites

Seems nutty.


273 posted on 05/04/2008 11:41:10 AM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: Titanites

Interestingly,

Stanislav Grof was one of my

PhD program professors.

He was not real thrilled with the Christian focus of my term paper. Nevertheless, I met the qualifications or a high grade and he had enough integrity to give it to me.

I don’t even remember the topic now but something about death/rebirth, IIRC.

Grof is certainly out there newagey.

I agree . . . an invitation for satan and his goons . . . the ET’s being only one variety of the latter, imho—either directly his goons or in cahoots with them.

However, Mack’s qualifications were top flight.

And, his study of the phenomena was high level.

Most of the big league heavy weight researchers and experts in the field appear to be deluded or consciously on track with the globalists . . . some construe all ET’s as good. Some as all bad. Some say there’s both.

I was disappointed at the last Aztec conf in March to detect, imho, that Stanton Friedman sounds in favor of the global government etc. etc. etc. Yuck.

Thankfully, Timothy Good at least notes that at least a chunk of the ET’s do not do nice things.

BTW, IIRC, COMMUNION author Whitley Strieber considers himself and tries to live as a kosher RC.

BTW, you ARE AWARE, AREN’T YOU . . . that there REALLY IS

a global government largely in place and tightening the tyranny screws tighter virtually every week????

A student of mine remarked this last week that his mom had read a plausible report that they plan on implementing the chip implant in the USA within 1-3 years.


274 posted on 05/04/2008 11:41:19 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: bonfire
I pray DIRECTLY TOO Jesus. Protestants have a direct line!

AMEN!

"I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.

And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them...

Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word" -- John 17:9-10,20

For those with ears to hear.

275 posted on 05/04/2008 11:42:56 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Channeled throught ET though right? Quix seems to think so.


276 posted on 05/04/2008 11:45:12 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Preach the Gospel always, and when necessary use words". ~ St. Francis of Assisi)
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To: Quix
BTW, you ARE AWARE, AREN’T YOU . . . that there REALLY IS a global government largely in place and tightening the tyranny screws tighter virtually every week????

I am aware that there are some pretty nutty people in this world, many with advanced degrees.

277 posted on 05/04/2008 11:45:49 AM PDT by Titanites
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To: big'ol_freeper; Dr. Eckleburg

NO, QUIX DOES NOT THINK ANY SUCH THING.

I can’t find what post your comment refers to but Quix does NOT

think that ANY

SCRIPTURE

was channeled through ANY ET.

To quote Petronski

EXODUS 20:16

Wasn’t able to get beyond the “not on this server error” on the above post so I’ll repeat what I asked Dr. E to post for me:

Wow, can’t find it in my sent items. interesting. Maybe Dr. E will post it, for me.


278 posted on 05/04/2008 11:54:51 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Titanites

What a handly little slipping and sliding past the question.

I think fellow FREEPERS would be very interested in whether you see the socialists/communists/globalists broadening and intensifying the globalist world government, or not

??????????????????????????????????????????

If you are . . . unaware . . . . of that serious bunch of realities, perhaps . . . there’s a similar lack of awareness in religious matters.

At the minimum, I hope you realize that

SHRILLERY, OBUMMA AND MCCHURIAN

AS WELL AS VIRTUALLY ALL THE 16 OTHER ALSO-RANS

WERE ALL

GLOBALIST CONNECTED if not sold out to the globalist cause???


279 posted on 05/04/2008 11:58:37 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Huber
Are Joel Osteen, Jimmy Swaggart, John Shelby Spong, Benny Hinn, Katherine Jefferts Schori, and many others an improvement over some of the Roman Catholic clergy and hierarchy of the 15th century?

Actually, they are. The people you named represent a FRACTION of Christians in America. The 15th century Catholic Church was corrupt from the top down, and did not spread its corruption on one or two cable channels - it did it throughout the entire world.

I don't know where you've been going to church, but Protestants in modern America tend to just call themselves Christians. Half of them don't even know what the word Protestant means, nor do they care. In a post-denominational America, Protestant is one more label that is is just not used, anymore.
280 posted on 05/04/2008 12:02:05 PM PDT by horse_doc (Visualize a world where a tactical nuke went off at Max Yasgur's farm in 1969.)
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