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Protestants and Sola Scriptura
Catholic Net ^ | George Sim Johnston

Posted on 05/03/2008 4:38:34 PM PDT by NYer

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To: Fichori
"It is my understanding that "time" does not exist in Heaven. (Or, rather, Heaven does not exist in "time.") If Mary and the other saints are united with God in Heaven, then such questions are not relevent."

References please.

References? Won't a little bit of thought do?

Do you think God is:

a) bound by time and subject to its onward march

b) the Creator of all things including time and therefore not subject to it, but rather outside of it

Your choice.

1,621 posted on 05/07/2008 11:12:26 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Amen.

Wow, 1620 posts?!? Where have I been?


1,622 posted on 05/07/2008 11:12:55 AM PDT by Gamecock ("I find your lack of faith-disturbing" Darth Vader)
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To: Mad Dawg
IS this a private game, or can anybody play?

Jump on in, Dawg, Happy to have you.

I don't know nothin' about no disparity and would be grateful for more details and all.

I was speaking to the disparity between the RCC and the Protestant churches.

When you have what is more of a HUGE extended family, than the dictatorship we are depicted as being, there is always some weird guy somewhere - or even a bunch of weird guys doing stuff that the rest of us question.

Nice to see that it is much the same across the Tiber as it is among us 'great unwashed'... Please be so kind as to give the Protestant denominations the same understanding.

In the 14+ years that I;ve been worsipping in the RCC the vast predominance of the preacing is what I'd call "Evangelical" in the sense that it is more and more often a proclamation of the Love of God in Jesus than a moral exhortation or an urging for folks to "Pay, Pray and Obey."

Praise the Lord! The Good News is what it's all about... Don't get that 'worsipping' though.. is that where the extra sacramental wine goes? :D

1,623 posted on 05/07/2008 11:13:40 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Petronski
"Apparently God violated His own commandment" [excerpt]

And because God does something that God told man not to, makes it ok for man to do what man was told not to do?

God is not bound by the rules he has made for man.
1,624 posted on 05/07/2008 11:14:10 AM PDT by Fichori (FreeRepublic.com: Watch your step!)
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To: Fichori; Petronski
God is not bound by the rules he has made for man.

Thank you for confirming that He CAN turn the Eucharist and Wine into His Body and Blood and that He CAN protect His mother from sin from the moment of conception and He CAN give one of His Disciples the Keys of Heaven.

1,625 posted on 05/07/2008 11:17:48 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
" But of this one thing be not ignorant, my beloved, that one day with the Lord is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. (2 Peter 3:8)"

I certainly did not expect to see that one.

It is normally reserved for the crevo debates.
1,626 posted on 05/07/2008 11:17:51 AM PDT by Fichori (FreeRepublic.com: Watch your step!)
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To: Fichori
God is not bound by the rules he has made for man.

Where do you find that in Scripture?

1,627 posted on 05/07/2008 11:18:23 AM PDT by papertyger (That's what the little winky-face was for.)
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To: papertyger

Anyone who tries to explain God with science will only make a mockery of both.


1,628 posted on 05/07/2008 11:19:04 AM PDT by Fichori (FreeRepublic.com: Watch your step!)
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To: Fichori

(psst: what’s a “Crevo debate”?)


1,629 posted on 05/07/2008 11:20:05 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: wagglebee
Thank you for confirming that He CAN turn the Eucharist and Wine into His Body and Blood and that He CAN protect His mother from sin from the moment of conception and He CAN give one of His Disciples the Keys of Heaven.

BOOYAH!

1,630 posted on 05/07/2008 11:20:58 AM PDT by papertyger (That's what the little winky-face was for.)
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To: Fichori
I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.
-- Apocalypse (Revelation) 22:13

God is outside the confines of time (In the beginning God). Time as we know it is nothing more than the Earth's relationship to the Sun, it has NOTHING to do with Heaven.

1,631 posted on 05/07/2008 11:22:37 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Fichori
Anyone who tries to explain God with science will only make a mockery of both.

Where is that in the Bible?

1,632 posted on 05/07/2008 11:23:43 AM PDT by papertyger (That's what the little winky-face was for.)
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To: Mad Dawg; Fichori
(psst: what’s a “Crevo debate”?)

Creation vs. evolution, threads that make ANY Catholic vs. Protestant thread look civil.

1,633 posted on 05/07/2008 11:24:29 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: papertyger

Where in Scripture can you not find it?


1,634 posted on 05/07/2008 11:25:10 AM PDT by Fichori (FreeRepublic.com: Watch your step!)
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To: Fichori
Where in Scripture can you not find it?

1 Thess 5:21

1,635 posted on 05/07/2008 11:27:24 AM PDT by papertyger (That's what the little winky-face was for.)
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To: SoothingDave

References? Won't a little bit of thought do?

Do you think God is:

a) bound by time and subject to its onward march

b) the Creator of all things including time and therefore not subject to it, but rather outside of it

Your choice.


Beautiful!

I'll chose B: the Creator of all things including time and therefore not subject to it, but rather outside of it

Mary is still no higher than an angel though.
1,636 posted on 05/07/2008 11:28:25 AM PDT by Fichori (FreeRepublic.com: Watch your step!)
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To: Fichori
Mary is still no higher than an angel though.

What angel was prophesied in the Bible?

1,637 posted on 05/07/2008 11:30:55 AM PDT by papertyger (That's what the little winky-face was for.)
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To: Fichori; SoothingDave
Mary is still no higher than an angel though.

Don't succumb to this new age nonsense (which neither Catholicism nor Protestantism supports) that ANY of us become angels when we enter Heaven.

1,638 posted on 05/07/2008 11:31:07 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: roamer_1
Don't get that 'worsipping' though.. is that where the extra sacramental wine goes? :D

Darn Caught again (but at least you didn't see me worguzzling?Only slighly mo' better is that "Well, let's take that argument and apply it to YOUR side ...."

WE end up using a sledgehammer where tweezers and scalpel are called for. And I think that's because we think if we don't Win one for Jesus, the universe will be in peril.

Works righteousness .... Jesus can take care of Himself.

The presence of error and corruption in all out "Ecclesial assemblies" is better responded to with prayer than with, "Nyah nyah."

Who with a working brain, would deny that many committed Protestants or "Whatever I am it sure isn't in communion with the See of Rome"-ants deeply love Jesus and seek to do His will. And I dare say that there are two or three Catholics who have the same affections and intentions.

We each believe we have something precious. We each believe the other to be wrong in some important (if not ultimately important) ways.

Okay, end of insufferably self-righteous piety. LEt me foller along in yo' discussion, (bearing in mind that I'm leaving in a few minutes to create the appearance of industriousness and productivity).

1,639 posted on 05/07/2008 11:32:52 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg
"(psst: what’s a “Crevo debate”?)"

Creation/Evolution.

People who try to make Evolution and Creation agree like to claim that 2nd Peter 3:8 says 1 day = 1000 years in atempt to prove that the days of creation are not 24 hours long.

But there are other threads for that.
1,640 posted on 05/07/2008 11:33:11 AM PDT by Fichori (FreeRepublic.com: Watch your step!)
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