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To: xzins
“Before the time of Origen it was reasonably common to find the fathers expressing their belief in a personal second coming of Christ together with a millennial reign of the saints with Christ after their resurrection from the dead. Origen denounced millennialism perhaps because of his view that it overemphasized the sensual and the material.”

This is the same fellow who castrated himself in order to remove worldly
distractions and led to celibacy in the Roman church.
"This asceticism, particularly fasting and celibacy, was commended
more or less distinctly by the most eminent ante-Nicene fathers, and was practised, at least partially, by a particular class of Christians
(by Origen even to the unnatural extreme of self-emasculation)."

HISTORY OF THE
CHRISTIAN CHURCH
VOL. 3
by Philip Schaff

The Greek philosophical schools led to many errors in the early church.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
17 posted on 04/22/2008 7:47:26 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: XeniaSt; blue-duncan

Origen isn’t sounding like much of a role model is he?


18 posted on 04/22/2008 7:57:37 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: XeniaSt
This is the same fellow who castrated himself in order to remove worldly distractions and led to celibacy in the Roman church.

Your Philip Schaff quote does not say that.

Origen was, then and now, a material heretic.

56 posted on 04/22/2008 1:36:37 PM PDT by Campion
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