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To: Terriergal
I suppose folks coming out of the business management world are comfortable with that stuff, but from where I come from, it smells like deceit and disaster, every other day of the week.

In church, I do not want to hear about "key result areas" or a vision statement.

2 posted on 04/17/2008 7:02:56 AM PDT by Lee N. Field ("the Galatian heresy -- present threat or historic curiosity?")
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To: Lee N. Field

I kind of go both ways on this issue. I’ve read both of Warren’s books and honestly liked the Purpose Driven Church book for a few of it’s ideas.

That said, I go to a real small church that can measure it’s real assets in mid 4 figures. We meet in a school and have some land but have no plans to build right now.

I like the idea of having measurable and attainable goals. The goals my church leadership has are not measurable so they have no idea quantifiably if they are being met. In essence, I think at times we’re just busy playing church.

Many, especially large churches follow the business model far more than the church model. This article seemed to dwell on having a proper confluence between the two models.


3 posted on 04/17/2008 7:26:43 AM PDT by cyclotic (Support Scouting-Raising boys to be men, and politically incorrect at the same time.)
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To: Lee N. Field; Terriergal

The only thing that the churches appear to be taking from the business world is deceit and corruption, if one reads the recent news events involving many of these so-called “seeker sensitive” churches.


6 posted on 04/17/2008 8:08:26 AM PDT by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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To: Lee N. Field

You bet they’re comfortable with it. The delphi method is a way of life! They see nothing wrong with using it to determine what a church should do.


8 posted on 04/18/2008 5:51:21 AM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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