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To: Iscool; markomalley

You are getting really metaphysical here. First of all, we know that God is outside of time, so all times are the present for God. Secondly, the question of whether heaven and hell are physical spaces (not necessarily the same thing as real places) is the same line of thinking as the Medieval argument regarding the number of angels who could dance on the head of a pin. The question is whether the spiritual occupies physical space or not. This is not a question of spiritual reality or the reality of heaven or hell, but simply whether they exist in space and time.

It’s all very simple really...


29 posted on 04/12/2008 11:09:10 AM PDT by Huber (And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. - John 1:5)
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To: Huber
You are getting really metaphysical here. First of all, we know that God is outside of time, so all times are the present for God.

Ha...You guys make this statement whenever you can't explain something (which is often)...

Secondly, the question of whether heaven and hell are physical spaces (not necessarily the same thing as real places) is the same line of thinking as the Medieval argument regarding the number of angels who could dance on the head of a pin.

Not even close...Jesus said he ascended to Heaven...Was that really Heaven, or heaven IN HIS MIND (or your mind)...

The question is whether the spiritual occupies physical space or not. This is not a question of spiritual reality or the reality of heaven or hell, but simply whether they exist in space and time.

Well beam me up Scotty...No, that's not the question at all...The question is 'why don't you believe in the physical resurrection'???

It doesn't matter whether it's in God's time or our time, or His space or our space, when the resurrection takes place, it will be physical and it will be real...

1Jn 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

Now maybe you're not real, but Jesus is real...He is physical and He is sitting down in Heaven which is a real, physical place regardless of the fact that you and your pope are mystified about time and space...

My question is why would someone talk you out of believing in a real, physical, literal Heaven???

30 posted on 04/12/2008 5:18:16 PM PDT by Iscool
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