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To: Judith Anne; Alex Murphy; alpha-8-25-02; blue-duncan; Dr. Eckleburg; ears_to_hear; Forest Keeper; ..

Not wasted at all.

Sadly, it’s Not the improved mutual hearing and respect I was hoping for . . . but not wasted.

Major change takes a lot. Even with willing cooperative clients/family members etc. 100-300 or more repetitions of the new statement, attitude, thought-choice . . . may be required to even begin serious change on deeply engrained, reflexive stuff.

You did Good. Be not weary in well doing (KJV).

I’d also encourage you to avoid leaving at all the msg, spirit, attitude, grace God gave you in that service/mass.

THAT WAS/IS FROM HIM. No amount of flack, chaff, anything need lessen it’s import and efficacy for you.

I’m deeply grieved and sorry that you seemed unable to realize, feel, see that my long post responding to whomever was still in the attitude etc. which you were calling for. That hurt and grieved me significantly.

However, I still believe the grace, msg given to you is quite a worthy one. Where practicable and I can with clear conscience, I’ll persist in trying however I can, to support it hereon.

I have no doubt that others will continue to fail to see that. Thankfully, God has better eyes and better understanding.

I was beginning to form a picture in my mind of a possible way we could more effectively help one another conform better to the image of Christ in all this.

The seeming lack of RC willingness/capacity to meet Prottys half way [not compromising priorities not fitting to compromise] . . . that lack of willingness/capacity trashed the tenuous picture forming in my mind of a possible way out of the briar patch.

It’s just not very workable for Prottys to play ball when it seems glaringly demanded that Prottys become AT LEAST Jr RC’s to be considered tolerable to breathe air and take up space on the same planet.

It’s a bit like the fighting hubby and wife . . . each screaming that if the other would just FIRST become more like the one screaming that the screaming one would THEN be nice.

There can be no dialogue; not even minimal HEARING . . . much less any Love when others are NOT ACCEPTED WHERE THEY ARE, AS THEY ARE. I’m talking persons here, personhood. I’m not talking BELIEFS.

The chronic RC problem of the part of too many RC reps of a wholesale dysfunctional ability to distingish between deeply held beliefs vs person, personhood is an enormous stumblig block. I can accept such individuals in that stance as they are.

However, their stance requires of me a certain type of response. They are unwilling/unable on the one hand to persistently fiercely, brazenly trigger the responses they get AND ACCEPT THEM in any remotely redemptive, constructive way.

Wellllll excuse me. That doesn’t cut it.

Then there’s the personal assaults. 98-100% of the time, now, the brazenly fierce and brazenly overt personal assaults now are from a small group of RC’s to Prottys.

Yet the feeling on the part of many seems to be that it’s 100% the Prottys sabotaging all the sweetness and light? No way. Won’t wash. Never will wash as a valid construction on reality.

It appears to me that many RC’s have been mentally, emotionally, philosophially cloistered inside such narrowly defined walls for so long . . . they go berzerk at the mere thought that any other reality remotely exists to the least degree.

Then appoplexy; dust in the air; rending clothes; screaming personal assaults; abuse button sitting marathons . . . and all the rest break out at the drop of a hat.

And Prottys shake their heads and observe more 2 year old/Jr high level antics by SOME RC’s and figure it will take Christ returning before things will change.

And this foaming at the fingers indignation that Prottys don’t think, perceive, believe like RC’s . . . what’s WITH THAT??? Doing the same thing perseverationally, chronically, obsessively AND EXPECTING A DIFFERENT RESPONSE has been likened to insanity! LOL.

Guess what . . . we’re very different on a number of significant issues.

Yet, somehow, God has us together . . . FOR HIS PURPOSES. Seems to me only the stubbornly clueless and rebellious would resist trying to find out and to walk into whatever that might be on God’s agenda with us in this context.

HINT—IT’S NOT TO BECOME CLONES OF ONE ANOTHER OR OF ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER.

It’s also not to become some milque toast homoginized, wattered down version of the other side or some such compromise of the two. Not in the cards. Not God’s agenda.

He did NOT make us Wal-Mart machine-stamped/molded plastic specials from some Heavenly China.

LUB,


191 posted on 04/08/2008 9:15:48 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix
The seeming lack of RC willingness/capacity to meet Prottys half way [not compromising priorities not fitting to compromise] . . . that lack of willingness/capacity trashed the tenuous picture forming in my mind of a possible way out of the briar patch.

Things that make you go "hmmmmmm......."

193 posted on 04/08/2008 9:27:14 AM PDT by Judith Anne (Don't just do something! Stand there!)
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To: Quix

LOL! Projection much?


195 posted on 04/08/2008 9:29:55 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
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To: Quix
...it seems glaringly demanded that Prottys become AT LEAST Jr RC’s to be considered tolerable to breathe air and take up space on the same planet.

Where DO you come up with this stuff?

198 posted on 04/08/2008 9:30:52 AM PDT by Petronski (Nice job, Hillary. Now go home and get your shine box.)
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