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To: DieHard the Hunter

Yes, Canon law trumps Freemason oath for a priest. To begin with, a priest who joins has violated his vows. Ask any priest. Vows, including obedience, are integral to becoming and remaining a priest. [Canon law vs. Federal Law is a facetious question.]

I do understand it has no relevance to you; you’re neither Catholic nor a priest. However to Catholics being in grave sin and denied Holy Eucharist is a huge deal. This is what our discussion is about; I realize it’s not about you personally.

As it applies to the discussion, I would think it’d be consistent for masons to strongly discourage their brothers from violating the tenets and vows of their church. In this case fully informing them of what joining means in regards to the Sacraments at the least.

thanks for your reply..


161 posted on 04/07/2008 10:41:03 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr
What I don't understand is why so many people who have never set foot on a tessellated Masonic Floor know so much about it. Cannon law is nothing buy one old guys idea. It has no bearing on thinking people.
162 posted on 04/07/2008 10:46:07 PM PDT by BooBoo1000 (Some times I wake up grumpy, other times I let her sleep/)
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To: D-fendr

> Yes, Canon law trumps Freemason oath for a priest.

Or — to flip the situation on its head — perhaps Freemasonic Oaths trump Canon Law for these particular Catholic Freemasons, which includes priests...? Perhaps for them it is a question of which has priority?

Dunno. I can’t possibly comment on that. Freemasonry does not seek to undermine any religion, or any particular political structure, or indeed the family. Indeed it specifically seeks to supplement and support all of these, and for most Masons it does.

I do not know why there are Catholics who are also Freemasons: that is their business not mine.

> [Canon law vs. Federal Law is a facetious question.]

True, it was a naughty question. But I guess it is also an interesting one: to a Catholic, which trumps which? Do Catholics obey Canon Law or Federal Law, if the two come into conflict?


167 posted on 04/07/2008 11:37:07 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: D-fendr

Thank you for your well founded posts on this thread, and the clarification of Church law with respect to the evils of Freemasonry. Your defense of our faith, and its teachings, is appreciated. It is interesting that those who argue that the Catholic faith “allows” membership aren’t Catholics themselves, nor do they offer tangible evidence supporting their claims.


216 posted on 04/09/2008 5:20:53 PM PDT by vox_freedom (John 16:2 yea, the hour cometh, that whosoever killeth you, will think that he doth a service to God)
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