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To: fortheDeclaration
Why does it show ZIP-because you say it does?

Works for me.

Why does it NOT show ZIP - — because you say it doesn't? (Do we have enough negatives going here?)

I think that the very few accounts of Jesus talking to Mary, we do not have enough data to form a conclusion about how He generally addressed her.

The Bible itself suggests that it does not have everything in it. John says what is in his gospel (Oh, please, it's a document; let's not tangle about how many gospels there are) is written so that you may believe, not so that you may have a compendium of all data necessary to determine every aspect of your theological or devotional thought and practices.

You make two statements:
(A)And you can 'argue' anything you want, the fact is that nowhere in scripture does Christ make Mary anyone special.
and
(B) That is a Roman Catholic myth built on the traditions of men, not the words of God.

The second does not follow from the first. Even if the first were true, it would not show the second. Other assumptions have to be made, other facts adduced.

941 posted on 04/07/2008 6:00:38 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg
Works for me.

Well, it does because you want to ignore what the scriptures actually say.

Why does it NOT show ZIP - — because you say it doesn't? (Do we have enough negatives going here?) I think that the very few accounts of Jesus talking to Mary, we do not have enough data to form a conclusion about how He generally addressed her.

We have enough accounts to know that He regarded all believers equal to her.

He stated that very bluntly and even your own NAB footnotes that fact.

The Bible itself suggests that it does not have everything in it. John says what is in his gospel (Oh, please, it's a document; let's not tangle about how many gospels there are) is written so that you may believe, not so that you may have a compendium of all data necessary to determine every aspect of your theological or devotional thought and practices.

Well, now we move into the area outside of what scripture actually says and into the realm where the RCC can make up anything it wants to fit its own theology.

[ You make two statements: (A)And you can 'argue' anything you want, the fact is that nowhere in scripture does Christ make Mary anyone special. and (B) That is a Roman Catholic myth built on the traditions of men, not the words of God.]

The second does not follow from the first. Even if the first were true, it would not show the second. Other assumptions have to be made, other facts adduced.

Actually, by conceding the point that you are not dealing with what the Bible actually says, but what it doesn't say, you have proven both my points quite conclusively.

Point one, you ignore what the scripture actually says and just state that not all of what Christ said is in it so you are free to ignore what He did say.

Two, your traditions are built on what you think He said, and thus the Roman Catholic's view on Mary has nothing to do with actual scripture, but has to do with man made traditions-myths.

978 posted on 04/08/2008 1:49:33 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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