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To: Dr. Eckleburg
[On the contrary, referring to Mary as "Mother of God" elevates Jesus Christ.]

Ah. So Christ needs Mary in order to elevate Him to the Godhead. Fascinating. Error upon error.

If that was the case why didn't Christ ever call Mary His mother, He always used the term 'woman'.

490 posted on 04/04/2008 4:00:21 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: fortheDeclaration; Dr. Eckleburg
Welcome to the thread. You're stepping into a minefield.

Ah. So Christ needs Mary in order to elevate Him to the Godhead.

That quote is "Dr.E's" own personal statement. I'm not sure who she fancies believes it.

Know this:

CATHOLICS DO NOT BELIEVE THE THEOLOGICAL PROPOSITION QUOTED IN ITALICS ABOVE.

Indeed, we reject it and consider it ridiculous. It is indeed an error ... again, though, I'm not sure whose. I'm not aware of any group which actually believes that

To ascribe belief "X" to folks who, in fact believe "Not-X" is an act of false witness.

("Dr. E": This is a courtesy ping only.)

491 posted on 04/04/2008 4:17:58 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: fortheDeclaration

I would enter here on this thread where angels fear to tread:

Jesus called his mother “woman” because in His culture, it was a term of respect; one could say that its equivalent today would be “Lady”. I’m surprised that this fact of the culture and language use of Jesus’ time isn’t better known and taught among those who read and cherish Sacred Scripture.

Also, from the four ways of understanding Scripture (literal, moral, analogical and anagogical), Jesus is letting us know—(those who heard Him in the real moment and those who will hear Him down the corridors of time)-—that there is a new “woman”. This new woman is the one who will counteract the disobedience of the first creature whom God said would be named “woman”.

It’s in OUR present day culture that one may use the name “woman” as a term of lesser respect; the opposite was the case in the time, language and culture in which Jesus walked among us on earth.


492 posted on 04/04/2008 5:20:10 AM PDT by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words:"It's too late"))
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