Posted on 04/01/2008 4:23:02 PM PDT by NYer
I’m still waiting for someone to show me where in Scripture it says “sola scriptura.”
Traditions of Men
No, Scriptural truth...
Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved. In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace; Wherein he hath abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence; Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself" -- Ephesians 1:4-9"According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
I pray God gives you eyes to read those words and understand the granite assurance behind them.
Gosh, Bustard - if you tested what the RCC teaches about salvation and Mary and communion against the Word of God I don’t see how you could be a RC. The RCC arguments in favor of those (and other issues) doesn’t line up with Scripture.
Your quotation does not say “God Elects” us in the Calvinist sense. Jean Cauvin added that, and you swallowed it whole.
Some people have diviated from these and turned to meaningless talk, wanting to be teachers of the law, but without understanding either what they are saying or what they assert with such assurance. Timothy 1-6/7
Why, you need to actually read the Catholic sources you quoted. Of course she is all that, - she is the Mother of God.
But you also said something about blasphemy, and posted scripture about one God and one mediator, -- would you care to explain how, in your mind, the role of Blessed Virgin Mary in salvation is blasphemous or contrary to the scripture?
May be you can help. Doesn’t line up with what Scripture?
Shakespeare was an Anglican. He lived in Protestant England governed by Elizabeth.
His daughter, Susannah, married the Puritan, John Hall, a close friend of Shakespeare's.
Most all biographers agree Shakespeare was an Anglican with reformed leanings.
His writings certainly attest to that persuasion.
There is no other mediator. There is only one mediator, Jesus Christ.
There is no other intercessor. There is only one intercessor, Jesus Christ.
There is no other reconciler. There is only one reconciler, Jesus Christ.
All this is substantiated by Scripture. The RCC's hogging of the honor which belongs to God alone and distributing it to Mary and assorted dead saints is against Scripture, against God's laws, and demeans the work of Christ on the cross.
All in all, not so good.
By what Scripture?
Does the ICR count as Scripture?
As you interpret it.
If you’re interested, review the thread. I’ve posts quite a bit from the Bible.
I believe Scritpure, by the grace of God.
"For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth" -- Romans 9:11
Read Ephesians 1.
No trans-fats, people. And though I’m middle-aged, not insensitive talk of “spread.” (Sigh.)
*Gasp!* You stop that!
You like tittles too?
Right next to where it says “Trinity.”
All of them.
“Jesus, Compassionate High Priest, Therefore since we hve a great high priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus, the Son of God, let us hold fast to our confession. For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who has similarly been tested in every way, yet without sin. So let us confidently approach the throne of grace to recieve mercy and to find grace for timely help. Heb 4-14/16
(The author is confident of his access to the throne of Christ and,)
Heb 5 1-10 Every high priest is taken from among men and made their representative before God, to offer gifts and sacrifices for sins. He is able to deal patiently with the ignorant and erring for he himself is beset by WEAKNESS and so for this reason must make sin offerings for himself as well as for the people.
In the same way, it was not Christ who glorified himself in becoming high priest, but rather the one who said to him:
You are my son, this day I have begotton you. Just as he says in another place,
You are a Priest Forever
according to the order of
Melchizedek.”
In the days when he was in the flesh, he offered prayers and supplications with loud cries and tears to the one who able to save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverence. Son though he was, he learned obedience from what he suffered, and when he was made perfect he became the source of eternal salvation for all who obey him
declared by God high priest according
to the order of Melchizedek.”
(This means according to Christian tradition Melchizedek “priest of the God most high: as a prefiguration of the priesthood of Christ, the unique high priest after the order of Melchizedek, holy, blameless, unstained by a single offering he has perfected for all time those who are sanctified by the cross.
(It Should be noted that Melchizedek was not a Levi. He had no part in the Levite tradition. His was an entirely different order. )
Genesis 14-18 Melchizedeck prefigures the Great High Priest
“Melchizedeck, king of Salem, brought out bread and wine, and being a priest of God Most High, he blessed Abran with these words: Blessed be Abram by God Most High, the creator of heaven and earth, And blessed be God Most High, who delivered your foes into your hand.”
(Salem is traditionally identified with Jerusalem.)
The Redemptive power of the sacrifice is unique and accomplished once and for all; yet it is made present in the Eucharistic sacrifice of the Church. The same is true of the one priesthood of Christ, it is made present through the ministerial priesthood without diminishing the uniqueness of Christ’s priesthood.
“Only Christ is the true priest, the others being only his ministers” Heb 8-4
And those others in a direct Apostolic line acting in accordance with Christ’s mandate at the Last Supper.
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