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To: Greg F

I never said that.

What warren does is make stylistic changes without regard for who it bothers — apparently the young folk are more important than the old folk.

Then he changes things of more substance, and bills those as similar changes which you wouldn’t oppose unless you were ‘selfish’ and ‘fat and lazy want to be spoonfed’ Christians. It’s the classic bait and switch.

You need to read Bob DeWaay’s book. In fact, he has a praise group that sings for their services too, and they sing some contemporary stuff and some hymns.

Style is not the issue. What is at issue is the faulty logic and resultant doctrinal errors bordering on heresy.

“It is my deep conviction that anybody can be won to Christ if you discover the key to his or her heart. . . . It may take some time to identify it. But the most likely place to start is with the person’s felt needs.” — Rick Warren, The Purpose Driven Church, (Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 1995) 219.

This is heresy and puts Rick, or US in the place of the Holy Spirit. If you build a church on this premise, you are building a church where the Spirit is quenched because you place mankind in his place.


5 posted on 03/29/2008 8:33:48 AM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Terriergal
One of the things that really disturbs me about Warren is t he actually teaches that, if someone disagrees, then tell that member just to leave.

At my mega church in Memphis, which I no longer attend, the pastor will not even meet with anyone that questions the program.

7 posted on 03/29/2008 8:54:35 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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