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To: Dr. Eckleburg; OLD REGGIE; Alex Murphy; Quix; blue-duncan; Gamecock; HarleyD; Forest Keeper
The article is correct in one distinction, however. The RCC is materially-minded, while Protestants are spiritually-minded.

I think a distinction that we often forget is the relationship between church and state. The RCC emerged through state sanction. It grew in authority and power through its connection to the state. During the 1,100 plus years between when it emerged and the Reformation there were large periods where it was as much a political and judicial organization as it was a church. In fact during many of those periods it was the organizing force of European civilization.

The vast majority of Christian churches not associated with the RCC do not have that historic link to the state. It makes for a very different view of the role of the Christian church.

62 posted on 03/29/2008 12:26:45 PM PDT by wmfights (Believe - THE GOSPEL - and be saved)
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To: wmfights
The vast majority of Christian churches not associated with the RCC do not have that historic link to the state. It makes for a very different view of the role of the Christian church.

And Praise God for that priceless distinction.

And which perspective is most suited to being deceived and consumed by the satanic globalists? One guess.

91 posted on 03/29/2008 8:55:55 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: wmfights
I think a distinction that we often forget is the relationship between church and state. The RCC emerged through state sanction. It grew in authority and power through its connection to the state.

wm, I really think you need to re-read your history. The history of most of the medieval period in the West was marked by intractable conflict between the (supranational) church and the nation-state. It really isn't that long ago, even in America, that Catholics were widely suspected of having some sort of divided loyalty, as though their Catholic faith was not truly compatible with American citizenship. (The draft boards never seemed to regard it as any sort of disqualification, however.)

Look up concepts like "lay investiture" and the whole conflict between the King of France and the Pope, and the whole other conflict between the King of England and St. Thomas a Becket, and the whole other conflict between the Pope and the Holy Roman Emperor.

The so-called "reformation," especially in England, the German states, and Scandinavia, often enough consisted of the church decisively and finally losing that battle with the state. Luther was protected by "state sanction". Lutheranism was planted in Scandinavia and the German principalities by "state sanction". Anglicanism was explicitly established in England by Act of Parliament.

To paint Catholicism as a religion formed and imposed by state sanction, and Protestantism as its opposite, doesn't fit the historical record in the second millennium at all. It was often enough exactly the opposite.

119 posted on 03/30/2008 4:12:09 PM PDT by Campion
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