Symbols and Systems: Why Catholics and Protestants Don't See Eye to Eye

Inside Catholic ^ | 3/27/2008 | Rev. Dwight Longenecker

[Quix]

“...Protestants and Catholics is that Protestants believe Scripture is the inspired word of God and the Holy Spirit is God’s means of instructing men through His word.”

Let me fix that for you:

Catholics believe Scripture is the inspired word of God and the Holy Spirit is God’s means of instructing men through His word.”

There. Fixed it.

Sooooooooooooo, then, . . . .

Please explain . . .

What exactly did you fix? How? Why?

[OpusatFR]

The sentence is:

Catholics believe Scripture is the inspired word of God and the Holy Spirit is God’s means of instructing men through His word.”

It says what it says.

I’m not diagraming the sentence although, apparently, I may have to if you do not get it.

[Quix]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh . . . more avoiding the original post and any explanation of the wording in it . . . while masterfully getting in a personal dig.

Sooooooooooooooooooo impressive.

[TradicalRC]

Interesting article. The author is straightforward about who he is and strives to give certain objective observations about the different faith traditions. It is a bit sweeping but he does seem to grasp some fundamental zeitgeist within the theologies.
What did you think?

[TradicalRC]

Yup. I’ve got a Budgie, Peanut, Bubblegum and Smoochie.

[OpusatFR]

It’s not really that hard.

[Quix]

Evidently, neither is evasion of responsibility for what was originally written.

[OpusatFR]

Read post57 and put it together.

Catholics believe Scripture is the inspired word of God and the Holy Spirit is God’s means of instructing men through His word.”

You’ve made an assumption from your own paradigm.

Good night.

[TradicalRC]

I get such a kick out of my protestant brethren who deride the instruction of men in the Catholic Church who “get in the way of Scripture” and are “trying to take the place of Christ” and in the same breath refer CONSTANTLY to the vaunted souls of the protty persuasion such as Dr. Bahnsen or Oswald Chambers or John Calvin or Martin Luther or John Wesley etc. ad infinitum.
Keep up the good work.

[Salvation]

I don’t try to spam each and every thread, but I do put links out there in order to offer more information on the subject.

Who knows, someone just may stop and read one and think about the other point of view.

I am not a spammer.

[TradicalRC]

And I have spent a great deal of time presenting what "Catholics", including many Priests and Bishops, actually practice as opposed to Catholic Doctrine.

Perhaps you should concern yourself with Protestant folks such as Bishop Vicki and Reverend Wright and Reverend Gretta Vosper.

[TradicalRC]

Catholicism's symbolism has led most modern Catholics to regard the Bible as nothing but didactic mythology, Judaism's mitzvot (tefillin, tzitziyyot, etc.), while similar to Catholic "sacraments," have not led Orthodox Jews to redefine the Torah as a big Aesop's Fable.

With a gap of a few years, I have been Catholic my whole life. I have Never met a Catholic who believes what you think they believe.

[Dajjal]

Authorities cited: Fr. Mark Massa, SJ; David Tracy & Andrew Greeley.

So this whole Catholic-Protestant rift thingy is just a problem of semiotics.

I guess we all ought to be reading Ferdinand de Saussure before we look at the Bible, Councils, Fathers & Doctors.

[Marysecretary]

Amen, Quix.

[Quix]

THANKS THANKS.

Much appreciated.
Blessings,

[Talking_Mouse]

Which is why I think it’s a good idea to take a break from FR every now and again, take a couple days off and get out of the debate loop. Life is beautiful - and both the joys and the sorrows mixed in together are gifts from God.

Sadly, I think you are right. One of my Lenten penances was to give up the FreeRepublic. While I don't post often I read most of the religion threads. I remarked to my mom, last week, that I was much happier because I was not reading these threads.

[Zionist Conspirator]

With a gap of a few years, I have been Catholic my whole life. I have Never met a Catholic who believes what you think they believe.

What planet are you from? Better yet, what dimension are you from?

I suggest you pay a little closer attention to your co-religionists on this forum when they are saying precisely what I said they say. For some reasons, you Catholics who don't believe such things always seem to disappear and allow them to speak for all Catholics without a peep of protest or dissent.

[wmfights]

To paint Catholicism as a religion formed and imposed by state sanction, and Protestantism as its opposite, doesn't fit the historical record in the second millennium at all.

It doesn't surprise me that you wouldn't follow the point I was making. It seems that any observation that is not favorable always gets that response.

It really isn't that long ago, even in America, that Catholics were widely suspected of having some sort of divided loyalty, as though their Catholic faith was not truly compatible with American citizenship.

Without realizing it you make my point. Why would that prejudice exist, if not for the historic connection between church and state.

[wmfights]

I get such a kick out of my protestant brethren who deride the instruction of men in the Catholic Church who “get in the way of Scripture” and are “trying to take the place of Christ” and in the same breath refer CONSTANTLY to the vaunted souls of the protty persuasion...

I do notice a lot of supporting Scripture and direct quotes from documents so any reader can discern the truth of an issue for themselves.