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To: Alamo-Girl
Just to be clear, I didn't think you, yourself, personally were saying that we were idolatrous and, not only that but, I thank you for your perceptiveness. In our big old barn of a Church we had approximately 90 gazillion people at the Good Friday service so I was asked to help "direct traffic" up to the crucifix at veneration time. It was all I could do not to weep at the beauty of some of the devotion I saw. It was in the faces of some of the people. (If I weren't such an extremely manly man, I would have sobbed. I kind of failed as traffic director. Sniffling doesn't do much for the air of authority.)

I will wrassle some more with closed communion. We do think it's kind of like sex before marriage, sort of, in a way, more or less because it's not just, as it were, vertical - believer and Jesus, but horizontal - believer and the rest of us. But let me think about it some.

Looky here: I know an ex-Lutheran - who is now who knows what, who told me with some kind of pride that his dad swung an altar candle-stick into the belly of a priest who told him (NOT during a service, before it) that the Catholic Church practices closed communion. There certainly is an appearance here of, "You are superstitious scoundrels for saying what you say about the Eucharist AND you deserve a beating for not letting me share in this worthless thing." I think that needs examining.

251 posted on 03/30/2008 1:12:33 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg; sandyeggo; betty boop; Dr. Eckleburg
Thank you so much for your reply and for your encouragements, dear brother in Christ!

Looky here: I know an ex-Lutheran - who is now who knows what, who told me with some kind of pride that his dad swung an altar candle-stick into the belly of a priest who told him (NOT during a service, before it) that the Catholic Church practices closed communion. There certainly is an appearance here of, "You are superstitious scoundrels for saying what you say about the Eucharist AND you deserve a beating for not letting me share in this worthless thing." I think that needs examining.

The issue as I see it is quite different.

The natural man cannot know what another man is thinking. (I Cor 2) And certainly a doctrine cannot know what a man is thinking.

But God knows the heart of the man.

And the risk is the same to those on the include list as they are to those on the exclude list.

So if I were writing your rules (and be glad I'm not) - I'd say the priest ought always first explain the perils involved but then, exclude no one. Emphasis mine.

But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of [that] bread, and drink of [that] cup.

For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

For this cause many [are] weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. - I Cor 11:28-30

To God be the glory!

402 posted on 03/31/2008 10:08:16 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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