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To: papertyger; Quix; blue-duncan; wmfights; Alex Murphy; Gamecock; 1000 silverlings; HarleyD
Mediator of what? Clearly Scripture shows the Blessed Virgin Mary was an intercessor superior to even Abraham.

And the Scripture telling us this would be where?

"For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus" -- 1 Timothy 2:5

Giving the mother of Jesus the title of "co-redeemer" and "dispensatrix of all grace" is vile idolatry which contradicts God's word, and denies the atonement.

"And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven...

If any man have an ear, let him hear.

He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity..." -- Rev. 13:6,9-10


367 posted on 03/25/2008 7:47:00 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

“Giving the mother of Jesus the title of “co-redeemer” and “dispensatrix of all grace” is vile idolatry which contradicts God’s word, and denies the atonement.”

Mary is not worshipped, but venerated as the Mother of Christ.
“...blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of they womb Jesus.”

All power is to Christ Jesus.


370 posted on 03/25/2008 7:54:12 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("bigger government means constricting freedom"....................RWR)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; HarleyD; wmfights; fortheDeclaration
Mary was an intercessor superior to even Abraham.

What outrageous balderdash! It boggles my mind that folks could even IMAGINE such wholesale horrific UNBiblical nonsense. And they teach such lies to children!!! Talk about child abuse! Sheesh!

Magnificent Magical, Manipulated, Manmade, Mantra-mumbling, Matriarchal, archetypal Earth-Mother Mary strikes again.

I wonder what price the first Marion concession went for. And who's relative cornered that first market?

Imagine, if God were not wrapping things up in our era . . . and Jesus were going to tarry another 2,000 years . . . the nutty RC cult would have Mary as co-creator nursing whole infant galactic clusters at her galactic bossom. Then there would be the new mythology that satan would have been a model child had he had Mary as a mother.

Then some corner of the magicsterical would decide that they needed a new dogma about Christ having to spend the 3 grave days in purgatory because He questioned Magnificent Miraculous archetypal Earth-Mother Mary about making water into wine so soon in His ministry.

God have mercy. To think that more than a billion people believe such . . . flower food . . . really grieves my spirit. It's a bit insulting that anyone would think we should check our brains & Bibles at the door, take our soma and believe such horse feathers.

Mind boggling. When I thought it was already all nutty RC cult boggled out.

381 posted on 03/25/2008 8:17:28 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
And the Scripture telling us this would be where?

John 2...for those who have ears to hear, and eyes to see.

First, you will please note the BVM remains unnamed in the Cana story. The Holy Spirit obviously wants no confusion on which "Mary" is involved.

Next, the BVM merely "informs" our Lord as to the status of the wine. It is also quite obvious our Lord knows her heart and is attentive to her wishes even though she hasn't made a formal request.

Our Lord then makes it known to his mother what she wants is outside the divine plan. Nevertheless, GOD CONDESCENDS TO ALTER HIS DIVINE PLAN AT HER REQUEST!

Despite what the Scriptural text records of what our Lord "says" in answer to his mother, we see the very next event in the text is the BVM giving commands to the servants to prepare the way for our Lord's glory to be made manifest.

Is it any wonder millions of Jesus Christ's followers ask the Blessed Virgin Mary, who is just as alive as Abraham, Issac, and Jacob, to interceed for them with our Lord?

In this light, it seems pretty clear to me continual harping on 1Tim 2:5 is the same spirit that accused the disciples of "harvesting."

458 posted on 03/26/2008 7:49:39 AM PDT by papertyger (changing words quickly metastasizes into changing facts -- Ann Coulter)
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